Trump's SCOTUS
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It is at least conceivable that principles and fairness are inherently strengths rather than weaknesses, so the fair and principled have the advantage over the unprincipled and cynical.apeman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:33 amIt hurts, but Xeno is rightXenophon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:20 amThe thing about being the principled centrist in the room is that you are going to get caught in the crossfire. Zlaxer was 100% correct.
Can anyone honestly say that rational political discourse is even possible at this point? Who do you think started this nonsense? Obama spent 8 years laying the seeds for racial tension, when prior to 2008 society had been taking real steps toward addressing racism, not by placating the Joggers, but by encouraging a racial outlook that doesn't focus on the individual's race as an explanation for their behavior. Remember, the Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton were seen as race-hucksters by most normies, the left included.
Problem is, that inherently favors the conservative mindset because it focuses on the individual having some sort of agency and responsibility for their lot in life. The democrats couldn't have that, and so pandered hard to their base (i.e. minorities and liberals) to the point where these groups could effectively avoid ALL responsibility and blame everything on whitey, and society gave them a positive reinforcement every time they did it. This has evolved toward anti-white rhetoric in every strata of society, and increasing persecution against whites. Ask anyone who has ever had to sit through an HR presentation.
The Left has opened Pandora's Box. You cannot have a rational discussion with someone who doesn't have an ideological foundation consisting of rationality. To do so is not only vain, but self-defeating. The Left doesn't act in good faith when considering their opponent's opinions, they simply have them destroyed. The Conservative Right are the only one's bloviating about "muh principles", and that is exactly why they are unable to consolidate their victories. If your principles end up allowing your interests to constantly be defeated because you're holding back, they aren't worth having.
We can have polite society again when we get rid of the snakes that infiltrate every corner of it. Until then, doing anything but going on the offensive is going to let the snakes sneak up on you.
It is important to be fair and principled in life, but what about when you are forced into a game with a counter-party who refuses to be fair and principled? You lose, forever.
How do you cooperate with a counter-party who believes in the following: I beg for mercy when you are stronger because that is according to YOUR principles, I give no mercy when I am stronger because that is according to MY principles.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:51 amHardly. A lot of, if not most, adversity is overcome by dumb luck - which is available to everybody.Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:34 amHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:28 amThere is no collapse. All life is a constant and endless struggle against entropy, with adaptation being the only reliable "trick."
Bunch of wallowing cynics that can't handle adversity, the lot of you.
Overcoming adversity with grit and hard work is a tennant of white privilege. Fuck Yo privilege.
No - BLM says luck not apportioned fairly. BLM also says hard work and being on time are tenants of white privilege. These are the reasons POCs can’t get a head - and it’s whitie’s fault. Fuck - spelling is based in white privileged. Get with the program comrade.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS
Video proof that principles and fairness aren't strengths:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:52 amIt is at least conceivable that principles and fairness are inherently strengths rather than weaknesses, so the fair and principled have the advantage over the unprincipled and cynical.apeman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:33 amIt hurts, but Xeno is rightXenophon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:20 amThe thing about being the principled centrist in the room is that you are going to get caught in the crossfire. Zlaxer was 100% correct.
Can anyone honestly say that rational political discourse is even possible at this point? Who do you think started this nonsense? Obama spent 8 years laying the seeds for racial tension, when prior to 2008 society had been taking real steps toward addressing racism, not by placating the Joggers, but by encouraging a racial outlook that doesn't focus on the individual's race as an explanation for their behavior. Remember, the Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton were seen as race-hucksters by most normies, the left included.
Problem is, that inherently favors the conservative mindset because it focuses on the individual having some sort of agency and responsibility for their lot in life. The democrats couldn't have that, and so pandered hard to their base (i.e. minorities and liberals) to the point where these groups could effectively avoid ALL responsibility and blame everything on whitey, and society gave them a positive reinforcement every time they did it. This has evolved toward anti-white rhetoric in every strata of society, and increasing persecution against whites. Ask anyone who has ever had to sit through an HR presentation.
The Left has opened Pandora's Box. You cannot have a rational discussion with someone who doesn't have an ideological foundation consisting of rationality. To do so is not only vain, but self-defeating. The Left doesn't act in good faith when considering their opponent's opinions, they simply have them destroyed. The Conservative Right are the only one's bloviating about "muh principles", and that is exactly why they are unable to consolidate their victories. If your principles end up allowing your interests to constantly be defeated because you're holding back, they aren't worth having.
We can have polite society again when we get rid of the snakes that infiltrate every corner of it. Until then, doing anything but going on the offensive is going to let the snakes sneak up on you.
It is important to be fair and principled in life, but what about when you are forced into a game with a counter-party who refuses to be fair and principled? You lose, forever.
How do you cooperate with a counter-party who believes in the following: I beg for mercy when you are stronger because that is according to YOUR principles, I give no mercy when I am stronger because that is according to MY principles.
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I'm white as the pure driven snow, and have never been able to spell.Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:58 amHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:51 amHardly. A lot of, if not most, adversity is overcome by dumb luck - which is available to everybody.
No - BLM says luck not apportioned fairly. BLM also says hard work and being on time are tenants of white privilege. These are the reasons POCs can’t get a head - and it’s whitie’s fault. Fuck - spelling is based in white privileged. Get with the program comrade.
Anyway, BLM is right - luck isn't fair. That is kind of why we call it luck.
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Bad shit happens, ergo principles are weaknesses
QED?
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I believe a man’s gotta have a code but you’re making principles sounds a lot like morals? The only principle is liberty, and all other decisions flow from there. If you want, I’ll make those decisions for you?
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How does a good-faith party being forced to interact with a bad-faith party work out?Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:05 amBad shit happens, ergo principles are weaknesses
QED?
To make it concrete, how do you compromise of SCOTUS seats after Kavanaugh?
Oh, nevermind, Kavanaugh was just some "bad shit happens", let's strike a handshake deal with the people who called him a gang rapist
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That's a good principle.Martin Hash wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:14 amI believe a man’s gotta have a code but you’re making principles sounds a lot like morals? The only principle is liberty, and all other decisions flow from there. If you want, I’ll make those decisions for you?
I am not sure what the moral/principle distinction is in your lexicon, though, since morality is typically defined as principles for determining right from wrong.
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I don't really see the conflict here. I think Trump should make a nomination and the Senate should advise and vote. Conservatives got a lucky roll and 3 SCOTUS picks. Dems were shitty about it, but they believed they were doing their fiduciary duty to their constituents by being as shitty as possible. It was ugly, but I am not sure it was 'bad-faith.'apeman wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:16 amHow does a good-faith party being forced to interact with a bad-faith party work out?Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:05 amBad shit happens, ergo principles are weaknesses
QED?
To make it concrete, how do you compromise of SCOTUS seats after Kavanaugh?
Oh, nevermind, Kavanaugh was just some "bad shit happens", let's strike a handshake deal with the people who called him a gang rapist
To echo C-Mag, my hope is that more constitutionalists on the bench will mean less legislation from the bench, and (eventually) less political SCOTUS nominations - but there are going to be some ugly fights.
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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