Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[The Conservative]

And it's the only constitutional republic in the world as far as I know.

Those who say the US is a Democracy is attempting to rewrite history.

France is Constitutional Republic as well. Their constitution just isnt anywhere near as good, or anywhere near as old.

Hell even China is a constitutional republic, as is North Korea, they aint that rare, and most of them arent that well run, America is the exception.

So I stand corrected, but either way, the US is still a constitutional republic, no matter how much people want to attempt a revisionist writing of America.

[StCapps]

And it's the only constitutional republic in the world as far as I know.

Those who say the US is a Democracy is attempting to rewrite history.

France is Constitutional Republic as well. Their constitution just isnt anywhere near as good, or anywhere near as old.

Hell even China is a constitutional republic, as is North Korea, they aint that rare, and most of them arent that well run, America is the exception.

So I stand corrected, but either way, the US is still a constitutional republic, no matter how much people want to attempt a revisionist writing of America.

The existence of democratic accountability does not a democracy make. Who knew?

[Montegriffo]

Just so I understand, you think the same Parliament that couldn't pass a law to prevent a no-deal Brexit in multiple votes over several months before the original March deadline, and which has failed since to pass any law preventing it in the months since the deadline was extended, are now suddenly going to pass one? I mean, it's not like they haven't been debating and introducing attempts to stop it for, oh, the better part of a year now...

Simple. For the last 3 years we've had a government determined to leave with a deal.
Now we have a PM determined to leave by 31st Oct with or without a deal.
BTW Parliament has already rejected the idea of leaving without a deal and is in the process of making it law. This is why Boris (who rejected the notion of suspending Parliament during his election campaign) has decided to suspend Parliament for much longer than usual in order to not leave enough time to debate it before the deadline.
If this was happening over there you would all be screeching about the deep state.

[Speaker to Animals]

Suddenly democracy matters when they lose.

[Montegriffo]

This is fascism

Funny you should say that.
Old one ball suspended the German Parliament and parallels are being drawn...

Not that a new government temporarily suspending Parliament is unconstitutional. It's perfectly normal for this to happen but what is clearly fuckery is the timing. The plan is to stop Parliament from passing a law to make a no-deal Brexit illegal by leaving only a week before the October 31st deadline to leave the EU.
It is a risky strategy though as it almost guarantees a vote of no confidence and a general election which is most likely to remove the Conservative party from power and instal Comrade Corbyn as supreme leader.
A Labour government or more likely a coalition government of Labour, Scottish Nationals, Liberal Democrats and the Greens will result in a second referendum.
This may well turn out to be a case of Boris shooting himself in the foot.

Not even the same as lil Adolph. Hitler suspended constitutional protections. Then the German parliament passed the Enabling Act later. It's a poor analogy when you compare it to Hitler and then you go on to say what Boris did is normal for the British government.

Prorogation is normal. What isn't normal is the length of time Parliament will be suspended (5 weeks rather than the usual 1 week) and its timing so close before such an important decision ie the deadline to leave the EU.
Smacks of a dictatorship trying to subvert Parliament.

[Montegriffo]

Suddenly democracy matters when they lose.

Suddenly democracy doesn't matter when they think they can win.

[Speaker to Animals]

Don't pretend like you give a shit about democracy after spending several years arguing to undermine it.

We all know it is a shit show. The only difference that matters is whether a man is honest enough to admit it.

[BjornP]

The US is a Constitutional Republic, of course, we don't approve of democracies.

False dichotomy. A republic and a democracy are not opposing things, nor something that cannot exist alongside one another in one country. The "America is not a democracy, it's a republic" bullshit, is just that.

You are a democracy. A representative democracy. Same as most other democracies in the world.

That is called a Republic. Stop trying g to rewrite what isn't true.

Republic:

noun
A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

And it's the only constitutional republic in the world as far as I know.

Those who say the US is a Democracy is attempting to rewrite history.

A representative democracy isn't "called a republic". Denmark has a representative democracy and we are not a republic. You are a republic and a representative democracy and we are a constitutional monarchy and a representative democracy.

[Montegriffo]

Voting for a lie is not democracy.
Now the lie has been exposed the democratic thing to do is have another referendum.

Brexit was sold as a way to make a better deal with the EU than we currently have. Nigel Garbage kept repeating that we could get a ''Norway plus'' deal.

[Montegriffo]

I believe in finding consensus in the House of Commons

Yeah right...