Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[StCapps]

Even still now a referendum on a wall would be passed. A referendum on increasing legal immigration would fail. A referendum on pretty much anything that protects white America would still pass.

And fwiw weed would be legal in all 50 states.

Plenty of votes you wouldn't approve of would also pass, be careful what you wish for. What is popular isn't always good, in fact what is popular is often a really bad idea.

[TheReal_ND]

In a direct democracy you don’t simply vote for who gets to sit on the seats. You would, as a citizen be voting on approving next month or year's government budgets or voting on whether or not to go to war with a foreign country.

Or whether or not to take away each other's rights... it's fickle like that.

Switzerland probably has just as much first and second amendment rights as americans at this point. And a better immigration policy.

This is the power of a European ethnicity that values liberty and isn't being subverted by plutocrats and oligarchs who try to peddle you bullshit divide and conquer politics.

[StCapps]

In a direct democracy you don’t simply vote for who gets to sit on the seats. You would, as a citizen be voting on approving next month or year's government budgets or voting on whether or not to go to war with a foreign country.

Or whether or not to take away each other's rights... it's fickle like that.

Switzerland probably has just as much first and second amendment rights as americans at this point. And a better immigration policy.

This is the power of a European ethnicity that values liberty and isn't being subverted by plutocrats and oligarchs who try to peddle you bullshit divide and conquer politics.

Switzerland does not have as much first and second rights as Americans, and they are small country. Plutocrats and oligarchs are damn successful in Switzerland, don't know what you are going on about.

[TheReal_ND]

Furthermore, I would argue that the reason the US was setup to be a republic was to keep the landed new aristocrats in power so they could import Africans and white people to do slave labor. The masonic project it was, the oligarchs and plutocrats eventually loosened immigration policies to include the whole world for their new world order.

[BjornP]

Yeah, I’m sure if you just did away with Jews and Freemasons, the problem of subversive oligarchs and plutocrats who consider borders to simply be an obstacle for them making more money, would go away...

[TheReal_ND]

We won't know until we try again.

[StCapps]

Yeah, I’m sure if you just did away with Jews and Freemasons, the problem of subversive oligarchs and plutocrats who consider borders to simply be an obstacle for them making more money, would go away...

Wishful thinking is a helluva drug, and nukedog is high as fuck on it.

[The Conservative]

Ah right, I forgot that you don't approve of democracy.

The US is a Constitutional Republic, of course, we don't approve of democracies.

False dichotomy. A republic and a democracy are not opposing things, nor something that cannot exist alongside one another in one country. The "America is not a democracy, it's a republic" bullshit, is just that.

You are a democracy. A representative democracy. Same as most other democracies in the world.

That is called a Republic. Stop trying g to rewrite what isn't true.

Republic:

noun
A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

And it's the only constitutional republic in the world as far as I know.

Those who say the US is a Democracy is attempting to rewrite history.

[The Conservative]

Direct democracy has never been tried. Populism is poison for the plutocrats

I hear that canard all the time: every local election is geographic-based direct democracy.

Except that it's the underlining description of a republic. People elect a representative. So at a local level, the people vote for a local rep to represent them at a higher level.

The purpose of this is so that when decisions are made not everyone had to leave the farms to vote.

[StCapps]

And it's the only constitutional republic in the world as far as I know.

Those who say the US is a Democracy is attempting to rewrite history.

France is Constitutional Republic as well. Their constitution just isnt anywhere near as good, or anywhere near as old.

Hell even China is a constitutional republic, as is North Korea, they aint that rare, and most of them arent that well run, plenty are shitholes in fact, America is the exception.