Nobel Prize Not SJW-Proof, As Scientist Discovers

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Post by Zlaxer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:10 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:07 pm
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:20 pm
@ StA - As a side point - education trains the brain which increases IQ.
No.

IQ does to measure education other than one's ability to read, but even that can be gotten around with a facilitator.

People just do not understand what general intelligence is. It's absolutely heritable.
IQ measures the Brains capacity to recognize patters and solve problems...yes - genes play a large role in setting one's IQ....but the brain is like a muscle...it can be trained to function better over time.

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Re: Nobel Prize Not SJW-Proof, As Scientist Discovers

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:11 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:10 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:07 pm
Zlaxer wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:20 pm
@ StA - As a side point - education trains the brain which increases IQ.
No.

IQ does to measure education other than one's ability to read, but even that can be gotten around with a facilitator.

People just do not understand what general intelligence is. It's absolutely heritable.
IQ measures the Brains capacity to recognize patters and solve problems...yes - genes play a large role in setting one's IQ....but the brain is like a muscle...it can be trained to function better over time.
They play 100% role.

You are confusing education with intelligence.

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Re: Nobel Prize Not SJW-Proof, As Scientist Discovers

Post by Zlaxer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:13 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:11 pm
Zlaxer wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:10 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:07 pm


No.

IQ does to measure education other than one's ability to read, but even that can be gotten around with a facilitator.

People just do not understand what general intelligence is. It's absolutely heritable.
IQ measures the Brains capacity to recognize patters and solve problems...yes - genes play a large role in setting one's IQ....but the brain is like a muscle...it can be trained to function better over time.
They play 100% role.

You are confusing education with intelligence.
No - you're the one whose confused....Intelligence (you probably mean knowledge) is what one knows.....IQ is one's capacity to problem solve....you can improve your brain function by literally exercising your brain...sure there's limits...just like body builder...but it still happens....mountains of research back that statement.

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Re: Nobel Prize Not SJW-Proof, As Scientist Discovers

Post by Zlaxer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:17 pm

The question in Africa is whether, and if so to what extent, their dramatically lower IQ is due to genetics.


My guess is a decent portion (the more we study genes the more we find that they control almost everything about us)....but I suspect a good portion is also due to environment...sort of like a snowball effect.... Lower latent IQ results in lower food yields which reduces brain growth/function every cycle...

What if genes only accounted for 5 IQ pts between the races?

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:18 pm

100% genetic

There is no magic in nature.

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Post by Zlaxer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:20 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:18 pm
100% genetic

There is no magic in nature.

It's not magic - Brain power is defined mostly by structure....structure is largely based on genes...but also on environmental inputs...the more you use your brain the better the connections become...thus, the smarter you become....But it has limits...

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Re: Nobel Prize Not SJW-Proof, As Scientist Discovers

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:28 pm

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Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:18 pm
100% genetic

There is no magic in nature.
You're saying that your current intelligence/problem-solving ability was determined entirely at birth. Ready to stand on that one?
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Nobel Prize Not SJW-Proof, As Scientist Discovers

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:34 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:28 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:18 pm
100% genetic

There is no magic in nature.
You're saying that your current intelligence/problem-solving ability was determined entirely at birth. Ready to stand on that one?
You do not understand what intelligence is. Go take graduate level cognitive science coursework and then we can hang.

There is no magic in nature. Intelligence is 100% genetic.

How you use it, whether you use it, etc., is another matter. The IQ test just measures something called g, which underlies all the various forms of intelligences (spatial, verbal, and so on). Culture and society probably plays a role in your ability to develop the g factor, but the g factor itself is inherited.

To wit: unfortunately, you cannot make yourself more intelligent. You can only learn new skills to better utilize the intelligence you have.

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Re: Nobel Prize Not SJW-Proof, As Scientist Discovers

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:48 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:34 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:28 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:18 pm
100% genetic

There is no magic in nature.
You're saying that your current intelligence/problem-solving ability was determined entirely at birth. Ready to stand on that one?
You do not understand what intelligence is. Go take graduate level cognitive science coursework and then we can hang.

There is no magic in nature. Intelligence is 100% genetic.

How you use it, whether you use it, etc., is another matter. The IQ test just measures something called g, which underlies all the various forms of intelligences (spatial, verbal, and so on). Culture and society probably plays a role in your ability to develop the g factor, but the g factor itself is inherited.

To wit: unfortunately, you cannot make yourself more intelligent. You can only learn new skills to better utilize the intelligence you have.
Uh huh. And so having the opportunity to 'develop your g' has absolutely nothing to do with growing up in a first- vs third-world country...

Never seen a more mealy-mouthed admission of defeat.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Nobel Prize Not SJW-Proof, As Scientist Discovers

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:54 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:48 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:34 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:28 pm


You're saying that your current intelligence/problem-solving ability was determined entirely at birth. Ready to stand on that one?
You do not understand what intelligence is. Go take graduate level cognitive science coursework and then we can hang.

There is no magic in nature. Intelligence is 100% genetic.

How you use it, whether you use it, etc., is another matter. The IQ test just measures something called g, which underlies all the various forms of intelligences (spatial, verbal, and so on). Culture and society probably plays a role in your ability to develop the g factor, but the g factor itself is inherited.

To wit: unfortunately, you cannot make yourself more intelligent. You can only learn new skills to better utilize the intelligence you have.
Uh huh. And so having the opportunity to 'develop your g' has absolutely nothing to do with growing up in a first- vs third-world country...

Never seen a more mealy-mouthed admission of defeat.
The test does not measure that. It only measures the g factor.