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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:08 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:05 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:34 pm
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:59 am
Conversely, it could be said that those impoverished and unstable areas produced less intelligent genes....
I think most (professional grade) studies account for those types of factors.
They would certainly produce poor test-takers, and less academic people. Whether you want to add a genetic component is no business of mine.
You do not understand what the test measures. It does not measure education level or "impoverishment".
Most of China is impoverished as fuck, and little education provided to most of them, and yet they still score a fairly high average IQ.
You will not take a smart street kid, plant him in front of an IQ test, and get a high score. It's a timed test on logic, math, and vocabulary skills. Those require decades of training to ingrain in someone, absent from a daily fight for survival.
Most of China is not taking IQ tests. You're only seeing the results from office workers and upper-class kids.
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by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:12 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:08 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:05 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:34 pm
They would certainly produce poor test-takers, and less academic people. Whether you want to add a genetic component is no business of mine.
You do not understand what the test measures. It does not measure education level or "impoverishment".
Most of China is impoverished as fuck, and little education provided to most of them, and yet they still score a fairly high average IQ.
You will not take a smart street kid, plant him in front of an IQ test, and get a high score. It's a timed test on logic, math, and vocabulary skills. Those require decades of training to ingrain in someone, absent from a daily fight for survival.
Most of China is not taking IQ tests. You're only seeing the results from office workers and upper-class kids.
If you pull a kid off the street and administer an IQ test, you will get his IQ. It has nothing to do with your ability to take a test, or your education level, or your oppression points.
Chinese villagers, out in butt fuck China score an average IQ well over 100. They have shit for education. They are not test-takers. They just genetically have higher average IQ than European peoples.
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:18 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:12 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:08 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:05 am
You do not understand what the test measures. It does not measure education level or "impoverishment".
Most of China is impoverished as fuck, and little education provided to most of them, and yet they still score a fairly high average IQ.
You will not take a smart street kid, plant him in front of an IQ test, and get a high score. It's a timed test on logic, math, and vocabulary skills. Those require decades of training to ingrain in someone, absent from a daily fight for survival.
Most of China is not taking IQ tests. You're only seeing the results from office workers and upper-class kids.
If you pull a kid off the street and administer an IQ test, you will get his IQ. It has nothing to do with your ability to take a test, or your education level, or your oppression points.
Chinese villagers, out in butt fuck China score an average IQ well over 100. They have shit for education. They are not test-takers. They just genetically have higher average IQ than European peoples.
Whatever helps, man. It's not genetic.
You could explain any of those differences with a Nurture argument.
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by Zlaxer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:19 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:12 pm
Chinese villagers, out in butt fuck China score an average IQ well over 100. They have shit for education. They are not test-takers. They just genetically have higher average IQ than European peoples.
Speak for yourself - SAC for brains.
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by Zlaxer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:20 pm
@ StA - As a side point - education trains the brain which increases IQ.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:22 pm
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:20 pm
@ StA - As a side point - education trains the brain which increases IQ.
That's actually the
main point...
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by clubgop » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:52 pm
Whatever helps, man. It's not genetic.
Read: "Whatever I said was absolute bullshit."
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by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:07 pm
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:20 pm
@ StA - As a side point - education trains the brain which increases IQ.
No.
IQ does to measure education other than one's ability to read, but even that can be gotten around with a facilitator.
People just do not understand what general intelligence is. It's absolutely heritable.
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by Zlaxer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:09 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:22 pm
Zlaxer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:20 pm
@ StA - As a side point - education trains the brain which increases IQ.
That's actually the
main point...
True - but the question is why has Africa failed to develop regardless of their shitty environment (and not all of Africa is a dessert). Scandinavia is a harsher place to live....Colonization? - perhaps...but so was South America....and while SA is not doing awesome (except for Chili)....it's a far cry from Africa...Why?
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by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:09 pm
It's an invalid point, however.