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I understand why people like that stuff. They are cool structures in their own right. But the pyramid completely takes away from the historic palace and disrupts the viewing of the entire structure.
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Fuddy-duddy.
Is it an American thing because you think 200 years is a long time or just a conservative thing where you hate progress and change?
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I suppose this is a big ugly iron pylon which ruins the Paris skyline?


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That's a freestanding structure. It's really ugly up close without photo filters. I walked right past it, thinking it was an oversized skylight for a subterranean garage. Maybe people will think it's nice after it's been there for 300 years but I somehow doubt it.Montegriffo wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:09 pm Fuddy-duddies objected to the glass pyramid at the Louvre in Paris when it first went up too.
Now it is a much loved building and an international icon.
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If anyone wants to build a cathedral with a greenhouse for a roof, go ahead. Build your own damn cathedral. Keep your filthy modernist fingers away from our world heritage.

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I like the Eifel Tower. Hard to imagine Paris without it. It's a brilliant piece of engineering. A nice monument of its time.Montegriffo wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:36 pm I suppose this is a big ugly iron pylon which ruins the Paris skyline?
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Guy de Maupassant, on the other hand, ate lunch every day at the base of the Eiffel Tower because that was the only place in Paris from which he could not see it.

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+1 I agree completelyHastur wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:07 amThat's a freestanding structure. It's really ugly up close without photo filters. I walked right past it, thinking it was an oversized skylight for a subterranean garage. Maybe people will think it's nice after it's been there for 300 years but I somehow doubt it.Montegriffo wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:09 pm Fuddy-duddies objected to the glass pyramid at the Louvre in Paris when it first went up too.
Now it is a much loved building and an international icon.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sylviebiga ... niversary/
If anyone wants to build a cathedral with a greenhouse for a roof, go ahead. Build your own damn cathedral. Keep your filthy modernist fingers away from our world heritage.
Every time I see that shot I want it gone. It completely destroys the Historic vista. Historic vistas are a big deal with the historic preservation crowd.
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Another free standing structure, that can be assessed on it's own merits.Montegriffo wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:36 pm I suppose this is a big ugly iron pylon which ruins the Paris skyline?
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You wouldn't permanently mount modern equipment on your trebuchet, say machine milled aluminum wheels with spinners and pneumatic system to raise and lower the trebuchet for launch. Then throw on some spiffy LED curb feelers.
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I would. Next big one I build will have an electric winch to cock it as that is one of the most dangerous actions and if possible I would use bearings to reduce friction. I will also reinforce the counterweight bucket with steel supports rather than plywood which I used last time.C-Mag wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:15 amAnother free standing structure, that can be assessed on it's own merits.Montegriffo wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:36 pm I suppose this is a big ugly iron pylon which ruins the Paris skyline?
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You wouldn't permanently mount modern equipment on your trebuchet, say machine milled aluminum wheels with spinners and pneumatic system to raise and lower the trebuchet for launch. Then throw on some spiffy LED curb feelers.
The last one was put together with a nail gun and screws and mounted on a trailer chassis, there was not a single mortice and tenon joint on it.
LED lights would look great on the throwing arm as it fired.
Even if I were to rebuild Notre Dame's roof to look traditional I would use steel beams as European oak is not available in the required lengths.
You all ignore the fact that Notre Dame has changed appearance many times over the last 850 years with each restoration bringing something new.
The spire and many of the famous chimera and gargoyles which were lost were added in the mid-19th-century restoration.
This is an opportunity to add architectural ideas from the 21st century to all the previous modifications.
I accept that a crystal roof may be too extreme for many fuddy-duddies and has been rejected by the architect appointed to carry out the restoration but to insist on adhering to some traditional ideal which was never kept to in previous restorations is ludicrous.
Every building of this age has a history of change with new ideas and techniques being added over the centuries. I think it is a shame that many people lack confidence in our current architecture and wish to reproduce some mock medieval clone instead.
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No we recognize the structure has changed, but the spires and gargoyles match the period and overall structure design.
Quit trying to put spinners on muh cathedral.
Quit trying to put spinners on muh cathedral.
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There are no rules saying you can't build new iconic buildings. The French did it with the Centre Pompidou.


I still think it's ugly but it's now part of the Paris experience. Stop defiling old sensitive things. Fucking iconoclasts.


I still think it's ugly but it's now part of the Paris experience. Stop defiling old sensitive things. Fucking iconoclasts.

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