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I got the chance to see two castles this week.
First one which was Arundel castle in Sussex I only got to drive past a couple of times and I didn't have time to stop. Seat of the Duke of Norfolk and very grand
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Nice old defenses and castle mound still standing behind the mostly 18th 19th century main castle.
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Second was Hevers castle in Kent, dates from 13th century but mostly Tudor inside.
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Owned by the Boleyn family and visited by Henry VIII who used the above room.

Great if you are into all that Wolf hall period drama stuff I guess.
The castle was heavily ''restored'' in the last gasps of the arisocracy just before the first war to end all wars by the American Astor family.
The oak paneling and ceilings in most of the rooms is from the then contemporary arts and craft movement and some of the best artists of the time were involved.
Unfortunately this meant there was very little genuine Tudor left on show as it was behind the modern work.
There was one bedroom ceiling from about 1490 which was in oak and a 15th century plaster reproduction.


Over all I left feeling a little dissappointed but was cheered up when I found a small museum dedicated to the local Yeomanry Sharpshooters in the grounds on the way out. Loads of good WWI and WWII displays. The regiment had a busy WWII a they were part of the BEF, rescued from Dunkirk, fought in the Western dessert, took part in the invasion of Italy and still found time to land on the beaches in Normandy, be at Villiers Bocage, operation Goodwood and got all the way to the Elbe before they finished. Canadian 25 pounder outside complete with Mapel leaf mark on the barrel.


Half hour queue to get in the building, tourists who can't tell a York from a Lancaster getting in the way and far too little of the oldest parts of the building on show, no kitchens to visit and no armoury.
On the plus side it looks fantastic from the outside surrounded by it's moat but I could only walk half way around unless I was prepared to go full Anarchist and step over the braided rope barrier.
There was a lot of 14th -17th century furniture and art from around the world but no information about how long they had been in the castle.
Another bit of history packaged simply enough for the average tourist and a lot of history lost/hidden by an unsympathetic restoration.
Bloody Astors, I can see why Churchill didn't like them. I should have gone to Chartwell instead as they were almost neighbours.
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Got to give the gardens an honourable mention
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All those Houses are mock Tudor from the begining of last century and are used for weddings now. Not a bad spot for the wedding photos if you are an intolerable poser.
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Lovely. How fun it must be to have such a rich history within driving distance.
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de officiis wrote:Lovely. How fun it must be to have such a rich history within driving distance.
You'd be surprised how few people make the effort....
I'll add a few more when I get the time.
Here's Framlingham in Suffolk I'll do that next, it's only about 20 miles away and I've been fairly recently.
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Curtain wall with 11 towers but never had a keep....

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This is the closest one, Bungay castle about 4 miles from the farm. Not much left now apart from the main bastions.
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Are there volunteer opportunities at these places for people who want to learn more, or who just want to lend their time and support?
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I've never been to a castle.

In fact, since I've never left the New World, I've never been to anything older than Williamsburg, VA
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Who keeps poking out fucking windows in the sides of these things? Goddamn "restorations".
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de officiis wrote:Are there volunteer opportunities at these places for people who want to learn more, or who just want to lend their time and support?
Most belong to the national trust these days and you can join for a small fee which gets you a discount all over the country and can get you special access on certain days.. Most will have volunteer groups doing the gardens and other maintenance jobs.
Hever is still privately owned and one of the big earners when it comes to tourists. Most castles are much smaller or in ruins and often you are free to walk about them for free or a small donation.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:Who keeps poking out fucking windows in the sides of these things? Goddamn "restorations".
Those are the ones that are still lived in and have been modernised over the centuries. Some like Chirk castle on the Welsh border have still got the original family living in them and have been there for over 700years.
Often the abandoned ones are more interesting as the original buildings and fortifications are unchanged apart from by the ravages of time so you can get a better idea of their military past.
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