UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

[StCapps]

Hate speech is not a fundamental human freedom. It serves no positive benefit and can lead the weak minded to commit hate crimes.
Hate is a recruitment tool for radicalisation.

Hate speech is free speech, which is a fundamental human freedom. It is not wise to restrict a fundamental human freedom because you personally can't see a benefit in certain forms of free speech that you disagree with, and stupid people are looking for a reason to do stupid things and claim certain ideas are the reason they do stupid things.

Wrong answer.

If that's all you got and you still want to restrict free speech, that's being a control freak, trying to control something you can't control, and when you get your way, it backfires on you and is counter-productive to solving the problem that leads you to supporting restricting free speech in the first place. Then your response is, well they didn't restrict free speech enough, restrict more of it until the violence stops, and it will never stop and you will always want more and more speech restricted to help yourself feel safer, even when the opposite is true.

[clubgop]

You refused to accept Dankula's explanation that it was a joke, stop pretending you don't use a double standard, you clearly do.

I refuse to accept that he even considered it offensive. His lack of remorse any unwillingness to remove his video makes it very different from Danny Baker's case.
Danny Baker has never joined a racist political party or stood on stage with the likes of Tommy Robinson (not his real name) either.
The double standards are not mine.

Yes they are this post proves it. You think someone is guilty of a crime based on, joining a political party you don't like and associating with people you don't like. No principles, no standards, just a fascist looking for power.

[clubgop]

I'm sure Goebbels said just the same about all those snowflake Jews complaining about being vilified.
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen when you allow racists to preach their hate without consequence?

Can we add Goebbels to the Godwin's law list ?

You are sure, are you? He said approximately that, did he?

OK, I don't know for sure that he called them snowflakes. He probably just said ''they are sub-humans who cares if they are offended''.

Do you not apply the same standards to UKIP and others? I think you do.

[clubgop]

I'm sure Goebbels said just the same about all those snowflake Jews complaining about being vilified.
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen when you allow racists to preach their hate without consequence?

Ah, you think it was the lack of hate speech laws that led to the Holocaust, not those other laws, that turned them into first second-class untermenschen, then confiscated their property, then turned them into outright slaves, then into ashes? You don't think it mattered that it was the government that directed the villification itself?

The US has had laws that allowed for villifying Jews for over a century...and yet, there's been no American Holocaust... odd, that. It's almost as if you need more than just a few bigots speaking bigotry to turn a whole country into Nazi Germany 2.0.

From little acorns...

Is that what you call little boy testicles?

[clubgop]

So what, you should only prosecute speeding drivers if they cause an accident?
You shouldn't stop crazy gunmen taking assault rifles into schools until after they start shooting?
Can you not think of any examples of stopping a minor crime to prevent a much bigger crime?
Can you honestly say that hate speech against Muslims doesn't lead to Mosques getting shot up?

So if I act remorseful, don't join political parties you don't like and associate with people I don't like and convince you my intentions were pure I can not be prosecuted for any of these offenses?

No standards, no principles just a fascist desire for power.

[TheReal_ND]

Hate speech is not a fundamental human freedom. It serves no positive benefit and can lead the weak minded to commit hate crimes.
Hate is a recruitment tool for radicalisation.

Videodrome made me do it

Death to videodrome. All hail the new flesh.

[clubgop]

Hate speech is not a fundamental human freedom. It serves no positive benefit and can lead the weak minded to commit hate crimes.
Hate is a recruitment tool for radicalisation.

So anyone who utters it, should be prosecuted. No BS about political party, or context, or motivations, or apologies, or remorse. But alas you have no standards you have no principles just a fascist pederast with a lust for power.

[clubgop]

We do in fact prosecute speeders. When you sign the ticket and hand in your fine, you just submit to default judgment. If you so choose, you can go to the courthouse and fight your case.

Got it. My mistake.

Well Monty assures us if we apologize, sell the car, and mean not to speed surely we wont be prosecuted. Make sure to tell them you are not nor ever been a member of UKIP, also.

[Montegriffo]

Danny Baker has expressed his deep regret at the Twitter storm that led to his sacking on Thursday, describing it as "one of the worst days of his life".

The former BBC Radio 5 Live presenter was sacked over his chimp tweet about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's baby.

The 61-year-old tweeted on Friday that "it was a genuine, naive and catastrophic mistake."

He admitted he was "foolish" to later try and make light of it.

The tweet showed an image of a couple holding hands with a chimpanzee dressed in clothes with the caption: "Royal Baby leaves hospital".

Baker denies that there was racist intent behind the post but admits he is now "paying the price... and rightly so".He wrote: "Following one of the worst days of my life I just want to formally apologise for the outrage I caused and explain how I got myself into this mess.

"I chose the wrong photo to illustrate a joke. Disastrously so.

"In attempting to lampoon privilege and the news cycle I went to a file of goofy pictures and saw the chimp dressed as a Lord and thought, 'That's the one!' Had I kept searching I might have chosen General Tom Thumb or even a a baby in a crown. But I didn't. God knows I wish had."

He added: "Minutes later I was alerted by followers that this royal baby was of course mixed race and waves of panic and revulsion washed over me... What had I done?

"I needed no lessons on the centuries slurs equating simians and people of colour. Racism at it's basest."But it was a genuine, naive and catastrophic mistake. There is of course little media/twitter traction in such a straight-forward explanation. The picture in context as presented was obviously shamefully racist. It was never intended so - seriously who on earth would 'go there'?

"Anyway i am now paying the price for this crass & regrettable blunder and rightly so. Probably even this final word from me will extend the mania. ('Dog whistle' anyone?) I would like to thank friends on here for their kinder words and once again - I am so, so sorry."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48226247
Now that is what you call an apology, no mealy-mouthed ''sorry if I caused offence''. No ''it's a joke get over it''. No bullshit about the right to offend.

[PartyOf5]

If there is one thing Brits can do properly, it's apologize.