UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by BjornP » Thu May 09, 2019 1:00 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:45 pm
Kath wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:33 pm
I'm getting pretty offended by all the people needing to feel offended all the time. It's becoming a way of life for some people. I can't imagine a life filled with searching through every syllable, looking for a way to proclaim how offended I am.

How about we just let assholes be assholes?

If someone offends you, you simply need to stop listening, watching, reading or having tea with that person. Your problem is instantly solved.
I'm sure Goebbels said just the same about all those snowflake Jews complaining about being vilified.
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen when you allow racists to preach their hate without consequence?
Ah, you think it was the lack of hate speech laws that led to the Holocaust, not those other laws, that turned them into first second-class untermenschen, then confiscated their property, then turned them into outright slaves, then into ashes? You don't think it mattered that it was the government that directed the villification itself?

The US has had laws that allowed for villifying Jews for over a century...and yet, there's been no American Holocaust... odd, that. It's almost as if you need more than just a few bigots speaking bigotry to turn a whole country into Nazi Germany 2.0. :think:
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by Haumana » Thu May 09, 2019 1:01 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:53 pm
Haumana wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:49 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:45 pm


I'm sure Goebbels said just the same about all those snowflake Jews complaining about being vilified.
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen when you allow racists to preach their hate without consequence?
Can we add Goebbels to the Godwin's law list ?

You are sure, are you? He said approximately that, did he?
OK, I don't know for sure that he called them snowflakes. He probably just said ''they are sub-humans who cares if they are offended''.
Probably said? I vote for nobody should say nothing that way there will be no more nazis. yahtzee!!

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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu May 09, 2019 1:03 pm

There's really only one way to eliminate left wing Grievance Farming.

And that is a massive right wing Grievance Farm called the Jewish-Bolshevik Conspiracy.

But then the Nazis are empowered therein, so it's out of the frying pan into the fire.
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by Montegriffo » Thu May 09, 2019 1:04 pm

BjornP wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 1:00 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:45 pm
Kath wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:33 pm
I'm getting pretty offended by all the people needing to feel offended all the time. It's becoming a way of life for some people. I can't imagine a life filled with searching through every syllable, looking for a way to proclaim how offended I am.

How about we just let assholes be assholes?

If someone offends you, you simply need to stop listening, watching, reading or having tea with that person. Your problem is instantly solved.
I'm sure Goebbels said just the same about all those snowflake Jews complaining about being vilified.
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen when you allow racists to preach their hate without consequence?
Ah, you think it was the lack of hate speech laws that led to the Holocaust, not those other laws, that turned them into first second-class untermenschen, then confiscated their property, then turned them into outright slaves, then into ashes? You don't think it mattered that it was the government that directed the villification itself?

The US has had laws that allowed for villifying Jews for over a century...and yet, there's been no American Holocaust... odd, that. It's almost as if you need more than just a few bigots speaking bigotry to turn a whole country into Nazi Germany 2.0. :think:
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by Kath » Thu May 09, 2019 1:05 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:45 pm

I'm sure Goebbels said just the same about all those snowflake Jews complaining about being vilified.
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen when you allow racists to preach their hate without consequence?
Once a real crime has been committed, the law must get involved. Your more likely criminal is the quiet guy over there, stewing in his hate & rage. I've been having this conversation since the late 70s, when the Nazis wanted to march in Skokie. We had a huge conversation on it, on the radio, on tv, in the newspapers, at school, etc.

The argument was very similar to yours. "Seeing a swastika is no different than being physically assaulted." The Illinois Supreme Court said, "No. Not really." They got their permit.

I landed where I am today. Words should never be criminalized.
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by Montegriffo » Thu May 09, 2019 1:14 pm

Kath wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 1:05 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:45 pm

I'm sure Goebbels said just the same about all those snowflake Jews complaining about being vilified.
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen when you allow racists to preach their hate without consequence?
Once a real crime has been committed, the law must get involved. Your more likely criminal is the quiet guy over there, stewing in his hate & rage. I've been having this conversation since the late 70s, when the Nazis wanted to march in Skokie. We had a huge conversation on it, on the radio, on tv, in the newspapers, at school, etc.

The argument was very similar to yours. "Seeing a swastika is no different than being physically assaulted." The Illinois Supreme Court said, "No. Not really." They got their permit.

I landed where I am today. Words should never be criminalized.
So what, you should only prosecute speeding drivers if they cause an accident?
You shouldn't stop crazy gunmen taking assault rifles into schools until after they start shooting?
Can you not think of any examples of stopping a minor crime to prevent a much bigger crime?
Can you honestly say that hate speech against Muslims doesn't lead to Mosques getting shot up?
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu May 09, 2019 1:15 pm

Amazing.

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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by BjornP » Thu May 09, 2019 1:16 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 1:04 pm
BjornP wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 1:00 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:45 pm


I'm sure Goebbels said just the same about all those snowflake Jews complaining about being vilified.
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen when you allow racists to preach their hate without consequence?
Ah, you think it was the lack of hate speech laws that led to the Holocaust, not those other laws, that turned them into first second-class untermenschen, then confiscated their property, then turned them into outright slaves, then into ashes? You don't think it mattered that it was the government that directed the villification itself?

The US has had laws that allowed for villifying Jews for over a century...and yet, there's been no American Holocaust... odd, that. It's almost as if you need more than just a few bigots speaking bigotry to turn a whole country into Nazi Germany 2.0. :think:
From little acorns...
:roll:

Right... and allowing Communists to organize into political parties will eventually lead to Britain becoming a Soviet Republic... Because from little acorns. Oh, and allowing gays to marry will turn every kid into gays, so all Brits will stop having kids. It's true, because little acorns. And allowing Muslim refugees into Britain will lead to Britain becoming a Khalifate...because little acorns... :whistle:
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by StCapps » Thu May 09, 2019 1:17 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:45 pm
Kath wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 12:33 pm
I'm getting pretty offended by all the people needing to feel offended all the time. It's becoming a way of life for some people. I can't imagine a life filled with searching through every syllable, looking for a way to proclaim how offended I am.

How about we just let assholes be assholes?

If someone offends you, you simply need to stop listening, watching, reading or having tea with that person. Your problem is instantly solved.
I'm sure Goebbels said just the same about all those snowflake Jews complaining about being vilified.
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen when you allow racists to preach their hate without consequence?
You think banning free speech would have prevented the holocaust? Damn you're delusional.
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by PartyOf5 » Thu May 09, 2019 1:19 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 11:19 am
So you accept Rosanne's explanation but not Danny Baker's.
There's a word for that...
Nuance?