Socialism

[Fife]

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/press- ... ess-equity

Congrats. Winning the made-up Battle of the Flags is like winning a beauty contest in a Leper colony.

:goteam: :drunk:

[Montegriffo]

So you're cool with rationing? and preventing people from seeking medical services outside of NHS if they can afford it?

Who is prevented from seeking medical services outside the NHS? Private health insurance is available for anyone who wants to pay for it.

ps zombie teddybear children are not a medical service.

Notice he was silent on rationing...

What rationing?

[The Conservative]

How much have your premiums jumped since ACA? Mine have skyrocketed. It fucking rages me. My parents told me that they are paying more for health insurance too.

About $300-$400 a month. Incredible increase to pay for the costs of Americans who don’t give a fuck about their own health.

$800/mo for me, and they are looking to jump the cost another 5% this year.

[Speaker to Animals]

There's no light at the end of this tunnel.

[The Conservative]

There's no light at the end of this tunnel.

Nope, there isn't. National healthcare isn't the answer issue, this is the reason why the ACA was put in place the first time, they knew exactly that rates would become outrageous, and in turn they knew that if the ACA was ever dismantled it would have to be replaced with a new system, because not only have people become dependent on it, but so have health care systems.

This has caused people to think they can no longer do without, and because of that, we are going to have a single-payer system.

[DBTrek]

We need to start a 2yr certification program for licensed ‘shamans’ who perform services consummate with combat medics for reasonable cash or trade.

Broken arm? Shaman can fix that. Concussion? Shaman can help. Non-lethal bullet wound? Shaman is on it. Flu? Shaman has your OTC meds right here.

Stage 2 cancer? Go to the hospital.

[Speaker to Animals]

I can become a shaman??

[Martin Hash]

We need to start a 2yr certification program for licensed ‘shamans’ who perform services consummate with combat medics for reasonable cash or trade.

Broken arm? Shaman can fix that. Concussion? Shaman can help. Non-lethal bullet wound? Shaman is on it. Flu? Shaman has your OTC meds right here.

Stage 2 cancer? Go to the hospital.

ERs are already staffed with NPs and PAs; you only see a Dr if SHTF, and several States already allow NPs to see patients. The problem is that since insurance is covering it, why choose an NP? In fact, a lot of insurances won’t cover NPs. The problem isn’t medicine, and it’s not supply, it’s systemic. But voters only elect Aristrocrat-makers or Socialists, no place for in-between solutions.

[brewster]

We need to start a 2yr certification program for licensed ‘shamans’ who perform services consummate with combat medics for reasonable cash or trade.

Broken arm? Shaman can fix that. Concussion? Shaman can help. Non-lethal bullet wound? Shaman is on it. Flu? Shaman has your OTC meds right here.

Stage 2 cancer? Go to the hospital.

ERs are already staffed with NPs and PAs; you only see a Dr if SHTF, and several States already allow NPs to see patients. The problem is that since insurance is covering it, why choose an NP? In fact, a lot of insurances won’t cover NPs. The problem isn’t medicine, and it’s not supply, it’s systemic. But voters only elect Aristrocrat-makers or Socialists, no place for in-between solutions.

I was under the impression the bigger problem was states that require any NP or PA to be under the direct supervision of a doctor. Same reason you have to go to a dentist's office to get your teeth cleaned, not a walk in teeth cleaning clinic.

As for healthcare rationing, we already have it in myriad ways. Everything from the utterly uninsured to high deductible catastrophic "insurance" is a form of rationing.

[Speaker to Animals]

VA uses NPs to alleviate the workload on doctors. Most non-serious shit you'd normally go to a doctor for in the rest of America is dealt with by nurses.