Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[Zlaxer]

If anything, this shows a weakness in the British justice system.

"Weakness".....that's one way to put it......

[Montegriffo]

Monty's just a liar who gets off on seeing people brought to heel.

He pretends like he's coming down on the side of law and order, but that's complete horseshit.

If he was really what he's pretending to be, he wouldn't be pirating public television on an unlicensed tv.

If he was really what he's pretending to be, he wouldn't be excusing his government's decades long cover-up of thousands of rapes of young girls on inadequate funding while staring right in the face of the same government arresting people in the night for offensive tweets.

It doesn't matter how many times you slap down his horseshit defenses of what is being condemned, he'll just make up something else, because one lie is as good as another for a liar.

He calls it all a false conspiracy theory, so you prove it happened.

He abandons that, and says it wasn't a cover-up, so you prove it was.

He abandons that, and says it was just a lack of funding, so you prove that it wasn't.

On and on. One lie after another.

Next he'll go back to where he ended up last time and say all those girls were asking for it.

Your definition of ''prove'' leaves a lot to be desired.

Love to see you find where I said ''those girls were asking for it''.

[Okeefenokee]

It's right there in the sig, faggot.

[Montegriffo]

It's right there in the sig, faggot.

So now I'm responsible for what someone else said?
Maybe your time would be better spent fox proofing your hen coup.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Did Tommy Robinson break the law? He did film one of the defendants leaving a car and entering the court house. And he did verbally confront him of the crimes he's accused of. If that's illegal and contempt of court, sure, he broke the law. But that's not what he was arrested for, and it's not this incident that got him convicted for contempt of the court.

He was on a suspended sentence for contempt of the court one year ago. This is more clear cut. He brought a camera inside a court house, and filmed illegally. And it's this sentence being enforced when he was arrested now.

But, he was not arrested for contempt of court a few days ago. He was being jailed for contempt of court that happened last year, but he was arrested for disorderly conduct a few days ago. Not sentenced for disorderly conduct. And this is what's problematic. Because it's enough to simply be arrested, not necessarily guilty, to change the suspended sentence to actual prison time.

It should matter if he actually were guilty of disorderly conduct or not, but according to the law, it doesn't matter when you're on a suspended sentence. If anything, this shows a weakness in the British justice system.

That’s what I thought. So he’s actually in jail for what would be in the States, a parole violation.

[Montegriffo]

Did Tommy Robinson break the law? He did film one of the defendants leaving a car and entering the court house. And he did verbally confront him of the crimes he's accused of. If that's illegal and contempt of court, sure, he broke the law. But that's not what he was arrested for, and it's not this incident that got him convicted for contempt of the court.

He was on a suspended sentence for contempt of the court one year ago. This is more clear cut. He brought a camera inside a court house, and filmed illegally. And it's this sentence being enforced when he was arrested now.

But, he was not arrested for contempt of court a few days ago. He was being jailed for contempt of court that happened last year, but he was arrested for disorderly conduct a few days ago. Not sentenced for disorderly conduct. And this is what's problematic. Because it's enough to simply be arrested, not necessarily guilty, to change the suspended sentence to actual prison time.

It should matter if he actually were guilty of disorderly conduct or not, but according to the law, it doesn't matter when you're on a suspended sentence. If anything, this shows a weakness in the British justice system.

That’s what I thought. So he’s actually in jail for what would be in the States, a parole violation.

More than a parole violation. A suspended sentence is a prison term suspended for a given time which can be applied in full if you break the law during that period. Basically he was let off a prison sentence on the provision that he stayed law abiding.
Parole is conditions such as a curfew which have been imposed as provisions for an early release.
Parole is easier to break as it may include things which are not against the law.

[Otern]

More than a parole violation. A suspended sentence is a prison term suspended for a given time which can be applied in full if you break the law during that period. Basically he was let off a prison sentence on the provision that he stayed law abiding.
Parole is conditions such as a curfew which have been imposed as provisions for an early release.
Parole is easier to break as it may include things which are not against the law.

Well, was what he did breaking the law though? He filmed himself, talking about the trial. Then got arrested, but not sentenced, for breach of the peace. So, there's the question if he did in fact breach the peace. And he definitely weren't found guilty of breaching the peace.

[Montegriffo]

More than a parole violation. A suspended sentence is a prison term suspended for a given time which can be applied in full if you break the law during that period. Basically he was let off a prison sentence on the provision that he stayed law abiding.
Parole is conditions such as a curfew which have been imposed as provisions for an early release.
Parole is easier to break as it may include things which are not against the law.

Well, was what he did breaking the law though? He filmed himself, talking about the trial. Then got arrested, but not sentenced, for breach of the peace. So, there's the question if he did in fact breach the peace. And he definitely weren't found guilty of breaching the peace.

If he is charged with a crime while under a suspended sentence he will receive a full trial at a later date but will have to wait for it in a prison cell.
If found not guilty he will be released.
If you are given a suspended sentence for contempt of court it is best that you don't go about disrupting on going court cases.

[nmoore63]

You don't want to be in jail?
Prove yourself innocent.

[Speaker to Animals]

His suspended sentence was for daring to report on yet another Muslim rape gang trial the government wanted out of the press.

Give it a rest already. Fucking hell, man.