Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

[adwinistrator]

Shahed-129 is an Iranian UCAV

[kybkh]

At least we will get to put this limited conflict theory to the test.

Trump played like a puppet. The media cornered him as some type of Russian confederate and now if he were to stand in front of the generals and try to stop this escalation he'd be strung up for sure until Pepe and the boys got there.

[The Conservative]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/20 ... syria.html

Oops.

[ssu]

At least we will get to put this limited conflict theory to the test.

Trump played like a puppet. The media cornered him as some type of Russian confederate and now if he were to stand in front of the generals and try to stop this escalation he'd be strung up for sure until Pepe and the boys got there.

On the contrary, he will do the opposite. He won't try to stop anything, but likely will want more tougher measures against the Syrians. Trump will stand in front of his generals and cherish the moment of being to commander in chief.

Didn't you see just how he liked the firing of those Cruise missiles to Syria? Just while eating the most wonderfull cake...

It's the Trump acolytes that want war in Syria. Best distraction against Trump's Russia problems.

Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the senior director for intelligence on the National Security Council, and Derek Harvey, the NSC’s top Middle East advisor, want the United States to start going on the offensive in southern Syria … Their plans are making even traditional Iran hawks nervous, including Defense Secretary James Mattis, who has personally shot down their proposals more than once, the two sources said … Despite the more aggressive stance pushed by some White House officials, Mattis, military commanders and top U.S. diplomats all oppose opening up a broader front against Iran and its proxies in southeastern Syria, viewing it as a risky move that could draw the United States into a dangerous confrontation with Iran, defense officials said. Such a clash could trigger retaliation against U.S. troops deployed in Iraq and Syria, where Tehran has armed thousands of Shiite militia fighters and deployed hundreds of Revolutionary Guard officers.

See here

Mattis is the guy holding the Trumpist hawks back, kybkh.

[TheReal_ND]

Oh look the concern troll is back. Been quiet lately.

If anyone is a Russian troll it's ssu

[ssu]

Oh look the concern troll is back. Been quiet lately.

If anyone is a Russian troll it's ssu

Looking at your posting, Iranian troll would be fitting to you.

Poor, poor Iran, Syria & Russia. All so innocent.

And anyway... likely people know how to fight this game. So this blowing totally up is unlikely.

Just like during the Cold War.

[Smitty-48]

There has to be a reaolution at some point. This can't last forever. The doomsday clock is real.

Well nothing lasts forever, but I don't see how it's on a clock per se, how does that work? Who is counting down? Hold on, let me just check the big board... nope, DEFCON 5, 15 minutes notice to launch, I'm not seeing any countdown here, what are you seeing?

[kybkh]

There has to be a reaolution at some point. This can't last forever. The doomsday clock is real.

Well nothing lasts forever, but I don't see how it's on a clock per se, how does that work? Who is counting down? Hold on, let me just check the big board... nope, DEFCON 5, 15 minutes notice to launch, I'm not seeing any countdown here, what are you seeing?

Do you think we might see some limited engagement in Syria?

Hard to imagine it being a 2 hit fight. Us hitting a Su-27 and the Su-27 hitting the ground or vice-versa. Certainly from the American side if a F-15 is hit with an S-300 the least you'd expect is immediate retaliatory airstrikes/cruise missiles on that AA position.

[Smitty-48]

There has to be a reaolution at some point. This can't last forever. The doomsday clock is real.

Well nothing lasts forever, but I don't see how it's on a clock per se, how does that work? Who is counting down? Hold on, let me just check the big board... nope, DEFCON 5, 15 minutes notice to launch, I'm not seeing any countdown here, what are you seeing?

Do you think we might see some limited engagement in Syria?

Strangers things have happened, no? It's gone beyond proxy already, you're both right there, within spitting distance of each other, putting ordinance down all over the place, in the same AO. Shooting each other's proxies up, while you're both in the room with them.

Hard to imagine it being a 2 hit fight. Us hitting a Su-27 and the Su-27 hitting the ground or vice-versa. Certainly from the American side if a F-15 is hit with an S-300 the least you'd expect is immediate retaliatory airstrikes/cruise missiles on that AA position.

I think Otern's got it basically right, America has the upper hand, no doubt, but how many pilots are you prepared to have in the Hanoi Hilton? Because the Russians would definitely get their shots in.

[Smitty-48]

Also bear in mind, Mahanian Eternal Seapower, nothing gets too serious, unless it gets taken to the high seas, but if it goes there, gets real serious real fast.

Somebody initiates contact out of the AO, on the high seas? OK, you can start digging your bomb shelter then.

No torpedoes, no biggie, first torpedo goes under a keel, the fur is gonna fuckin' fly, and it would be moving real fast, if you feel the need, at that point, you have my permission to shit your pants, if you think it would help.