Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:04 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:45 am
We have discussed this issue for years, 8 years ago we objectively looked at how a new cold war was being created. We discussed how in 'Poking the Bear' we were forcing Russia's hand. We discussed leaked emails of Western leaders deciding who they would install to run Ukraine, and how this was going to escalate. That was 8 years ago. Some of us have not forgotten the events that led up to this point.

For the last 8 years there has been a Slavic Civil War playing out in Eastern Ukraine. The war didn't start in 2022 with the invasion of Ukraine. It started with the Western instigated color revolution of 2014, and there has been continuous fighting since then.

It is extremely short sighted to ignore the past 8 years, or the US putting troops in Georgia in 2008 or the expansion of NATO, which we said we would not do.
no one remembers "Poking The Bear" more than me and Smitty

he called 2014 before it happened

we've been discussing the Russia-Ukraine situation for 8 years

and the 2022 invasion being an obvious blunder with huge blowback on Russia

is a sentiment shared by both of us
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:16 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:04 am

no one remembers "Poking The Bear" more than me and Smitty
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NO, I don't think you do.

That show has predicted the future of the US - Ukraine - Russia conflict. Here are the key points
1. If a dominant power keeps expanding, lesser nations will join to oppose them.
2. Ukraine is not one country. It is at least two and maybe more. One half the country considers themselves Russians.
3. It's a Failure to not understand you adversary. Simply calling Russia bad or evil is for morons.
4. Ukrainian Democracy and Independence is a Farce. When the US the leaked conversation between Victoria Nuland and Jeffrey Pyatt proved that and they referenced that Jake Sullivan and then VP Joe Biden were involved in selecting the next puppet in Ukraine.
5. Buchannan's accurate predictions -
a. A Friendly Russia is vital to US security
b. If we continue to antagonize Russia, they will declare their own Monroe Doctrine and it will threaten NATO solidarity and threaten Nuclear War.
c. There will be blowback against the US and Balance of Power will return, resulting in closer relations if not an alliance between Russia and China.



You should go get CS 270 - Poking the Bear....................................It's only a Buck a Show.
https://www.dancarlin.com/product/commo ... -the-bear/
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:20 am

I get sick & tired of being gaslit & told I’m stupid.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:21 am

Ukrainiots.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:29 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:20 am
I get sick & tired of being gaslit & told I’m stupid.
No Shit ! and we've gone through these since Trump was elected.
WTF is wrong with people that they can't see they are being propagandized.

- Trump Russia
- Trump Ukraine
- Trump Taxes
- COVID
- Best, Fairest election ever
- J6 Inssurection
- Safest, most effective Vaxx Ever
- Canadian Truckers are racists
- Ukraina Slava

The first clue is, you are not allowed any investigation into the issue. Once they tell you the experts have ruled X, and there is no more discussion, you know what it is. We know the NPCs will be all over the webs repeating the narrative.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:33 am

The power they have is endless repetition & name-calling: 1 time, I got it; 2 times, emphasis; 3 times, trolling.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:33 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:21 am
The power they have is endless repetition & name-calling: 1 time, I got it; 2 times, emphasis; 3 times, trolling.
I remember trying to talk sense into Penner and others about the Russia hoax. I was willing to consider Trump was an international gangster taking money from Russia and that he was a pervert who liked golden showers, but the story was so flimsy and the sources so questionable. Then once you dug into the people doing the accusing and the accused, it was obviously fabricated by Hillary and the DNC with some help from GOP deep staters. And they've clung to this thing for 6 years, even after it all imploded.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:35 am

And they don’t post here any longer.

Accept the narrative or be shunned. Even while shunning, there’s still drive-bys. Fucking mental illness is what it is.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:37 am

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:16 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:04 am

no one remembers "Poking The Bear" more than me and Smitty
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NO, I don't think you do.

That show has predicted the future of the US - Ukraine - Russia conflict. Here are the key points
1. If a dominant power keeps expanding, lesser nations will join to oppose them.
2. Ukraine is not one country. It is at least two and maybe more. One half the country considers themselves Russians.
3. It's a Failure to not understand you adversary. Simply calling Russia bad or evil is for morons.
4. Ukrainian Democracy and Independence is a Farce. When the US the leaked conversation between Victoria Nuland and Jeffrey Pyatt proved that and they referenced that Jake Sullivan and then VP Joe Biden were involved in selecting the next puppet in Ukraine.
5. Buchannan's accurate predictions -
a. A Friendly Russia is vital to US security
b. If we continue to antagonize Russia, they will declare their own Monroe Doctrine and it will threaten NATO solidarity and threaten Nuclear War.
c. There will be blowback against the US and Balance of Power will return, resulting in closer relations if not an alliance between Russia and China.



You should go get CS 270 - Poking the Bear....................................It's only a Buck a Show.
https://www.dancarlin.com/product/commo ... -the-bear/
the show was okay

the thread was were it was at

Smitty-48 > Dan Carlin

Smitty's predictions were dead on

his analysis was far more thorough

if Dan's predictions are what stick in your memory about Poking The Bear

no wonder your analysis of the situation is so off

where's that Eastern European NATO with nukes at?

one of Carlin's dumber ideas, straight up
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:50 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:37 am
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:16 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:04 am

no one remembers "Poking The Bear" more than me and Smitty
Image
NO, I don't think you do.

That show has predicted the future of the US - Ukraine - Russia conflict. Here are the key points
1. If a dominant power keeps expanding, lesser nations will join to oppose them.
2. Ukraine is not one country. It is at least two and maybe more. One half the country considers themselves Russians.
3. It's a Failure to not understand you adversary. Simply calling Russia bad or evil is for morons.
4. Ukrainian Democracy and Independence is a Farce. When the US the leaked conversation between Victoria Nuland and Jeffrey Pyatt proved that and they referenced that Jake Sullivan and then VP Joe Biden were involved in selecting the next puppet in Ukraine.
5. Buchannan's accurate predictions -
a. A Friendly Russia is vital to US security
b. If we continue to antagonize Russia, they will declare their own Monroe Doctrine and it will threaten NATO solidarity and threaten Nuclear War.
c. There will be blowback against the US and Balance of Power will return, resulting in closer relations if not an alliance between Russia and China.



You should go get CS 270 - Poking the Bear....................................It's only a Buck a Show.
https://www.dancarlin.com/product/commo ... -the-bear/
the show was okay

the thread was were it was at

Smitty-48 > Dan Carlin
OH, I see.
Should I give you a minute to move the Goal Posts ?

The content of that show hold true today. We don't know where this war is going. It could go Nuclear, and if it doesn't not much else matters. Though history says the more dramatic an event, the less likely it is to happen.

What is more likely is the Balance of Power rule coming into play, and if you are paying attention to anything other than the bravery of Zelensky and his livestreaming when he's high you'll notice that Russia is making trade alliances outside of the US and West. He's trading independent of the petro dollar with Turkey, India, China and others. And it will weaken the dollar. Russia is trading energy, resources and food in Rubles, Gold, Rupees and Yuan.

Pootin is not a genius playing 4D Chess, he doesn't have any other choice. And we forced him to do this.
And if you're China or India and you've watched the last 20 years, you see the ruins of Iraq, Libya, Syria and now what NATO is doing in Ukraine you gotta be wondering if you're next after they destroy Russia.

This war has hurt all of us, and will continue to hurt all of us. The war is NATO - Ukraine - Russia, Ukraine is just the chosen battlefield and there are no good guys. Cheering on Ukraine or continuing this war is damn foolish.
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