Meanwhile in Ukraine

[C-Mag]

the Ukrainians aren't going to accept being landlocked

if Kiev doesn't fall, they'll counter attack

That doesn't really sound like a defeated Russia.

If Russia was defeated, why would Kiev's fall be an open ended question at this point ?
If Russia was defeated why would Ukraine have to counterattack to get to the Black Sea ?

I'm not sure you know what defeat means.

[C-Mag]

Not so. Europe has already agreed to pay for gas in rubles. Thats our biggest customer for dollars gone.

Strategic victory overall. Ukraine itself is a side plot now.

Strategy lessons continue

[The Conservative]

the Ukrainians aren't going to accept being landlocked

if Kiev doesn't fall, they'll counter attack

That doesn't really sound like a defeated Russia.

If Russia was defeated, why would Kiev's fall be an open ended question at this point ?
If Russia was defeated why would Ukraine have to counterattack to get to the Black Sea ?

I'm not sure you know what defeat means.

How come those that are so close to being on the fringes seem to be the ones that write in broken sentences?

[C-Mag]

the Ukrainians aren't going to accept being landlocked

if Kiev doesn't fall, they'll counter attack

That doesn't really sound like a defeated Russia.

If Russia was defeated, why would Kiev's fall be an open ended question at this point ?
If Russia was defeated why would Ukraine have to counterattack to get to the Black Sea ?

I'm not sure you know what defeat means.

How come those that are so close to being on the fringes seem to be the ones that write in broken sentences?

I'm not sure.

I'm just trying to figure out what St Capps thinks the definitions of Defeated and Strategy are, because I have a completely different understanding.


Also, Russia took out 5 Railroad Stations in Central Ukraine in the last 24 hours. Presumably to stop military shipments from the West. These are strategic attacks, the same reason we strafed every Nazi train in WWII.

It's really an amazing Strategic Oddity right now in this war. Ukraine is the defender, but their supply lines have gotten longer.

[StCapps]

Not so. Europe has already agreed to pay for gas in rubles. Thats our biggest customer for dollars gone.

Strategic victory overall. Ukraine itself is a side plot now.

wrong

Russia is selling less gas to Europe

and America is selling more

than prior to the war

and going forward

the pipeline that did an end run around Ukraine was canceled

and Europe wants to greatly reduce it's dependency on Russian energy

that's an obvious net loss for Russia

and a net gain for America

zerohedge doesn't tell you that

but that's the reality

[StCapps]

the Ukrainians aren't going to accept being landlocked

if Kiev doesn't fall, they'll counter attack

That doesn't really sound like a defeated Russia.

If Russia was defeated, why would Kiev's fall be an open ended question at this point ?
If Russia was defeated why would Ukraine have to counterattack to get to the Black Sea ?

I'm not sure you know what defeat means.

you can win many battles and still lose the war

ask America

you can lose many battles and still win a war

ask the Vietnamese

I'm not sure you know what strategy means

since all you can understand are tactics

and the bigger picture totally eludes you

[Martin Hash]

Yeah, you’re stupid C-Mag.

[StCapps]

That doesn't really sound like a defeated Russia.

If Russia was defeated, why would Kiev's fall be an open ended question at this point ?
If Russia was defeated why would Ukraine have to counterattack to get to the Black Sea ?

I'm not sure you know what defeat means.

How come those that are so close to being on the fringes seem to be the ones that write in broken sentences?

I'm not sure.

I'm just trying to figure out what St Capps thinks the definitions of Defeated and Strategy are, because I have a completely different understanding.


Also, Russia took out 5 Railroad Stations in Central Ukraine in the last 24 hours. Presumably to stop military shipments from the West. These are strategic attacks, the same reason we strafed every Nazi train in WWII.

It's really an amazing Strategic Oddity right now in this war. Ukraine is the defender, but their supply lines have gotten longer.

Russia is having far more supply issues than Ukraine

logistics are not a Russian strong suit

the Ukrainians are cutting off their railroads too behind enemy lines

and the Russians aren't in western Ukraine to cut off the Ukrainians behind their lines

so it's a lot easier for Ukraine to cut Russia off from supplies than vice versa

anyone actually paying attention to the war

is well aware of this

those who only listen to pro-Russian propaganda

naturally only notice Ukraine's shortcomings

and none of Russia's

[SuburbanFarmer]

Not so. Europe has already agreed to pay for gas in rubles. Thats our biggest customer for dollars gone.

Strategic victory overall. Ukraine itself is a side plot now.

wrong

Russia is selling less gas to Europe

and America is selling more

than prior to the war

and going forward

the pipeline that did an end run around Ukraine was canceled

and Europe wants to greatly reduce it's dependency on Russian energy

that's an obvious net loss for Russia

and a net gain for America

zerohedge doesn't tell you that

but that's the reality

How much LNG do you think we’re going to ship across the Atlantic when Europe doesn’t even have compatible offload points.

Russia is selling less gas because it’s fucking spring. By winter, the EU will be stocked up on rubles and the US will be in a crater it hasn’t seen since WW2.

Now that the energy trade monopoly is broken, collapse is inevitable.

[StCapps]

Not so. Europe has already agreed to pay for gas in rubles. Thats our biggest customer for dollars gone.

Strategic victory overall. Ukraine itself is a side plot now.

wrong

Russia is selling less gas to Europe

and America is selling more

than prior to the war

and going forward

the pipeline that did an end run around Ukraine was canceled

and Europe wants to greatly reduce it's dependency on Russian energy

that's an obvious net loss for Russia

and a net gain for America

zerohedge doesn't tell you that

but that's the reality

How much LNG do you think we’re going to ship across the Atlantic when Europe doesn’t even have compatible offload points.

Russia is selling less gas because it’s fucking spring. By winter, the EU will be stocked up on rubles and the US will be in a crater it hasn’t seen since WW2.

Now that the energy trade monopoly is broken, collapse is inevitable.

how much gas is Russia going to sell with all those sanctions and their pipelines running through Ukraine?

less than before the war

America on the other hand will sell more than before the war

that's a net loss

everyone is still using dollars

even Russia

Russia wanting the EU to pay in rubles

is not the game changer you think it is

you can keep predicting the end of the dollar as the world reserve currency all you want

but the dollar is actually increasing it's market share

and the the rubles market share is shrinking