It would explain why natural immunity is so much better (astoundingly so in some things I read) than the shamvaxx.TheOneX wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:45 amI do find this conclusion to be very interesting, though. As we have seen with omicron if you have had the vaccines it seems you are more likely to catch omicron. This matches up well with their findings that the mRNA vaccines can affect cells in a way associated with a lower immune system response.We showed that mRNA vaccine (Pfizer) changes mitochondria by downregulation of cytochrome c resulting in lower effectiveness of respiration (oxidative phosphorylation) and lower ATP production. It can lead to lower immune system response.
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Just speculation, but I do wonder if the lower immune system response may be why the vaccine reduces mortality. The primary cause of death for most from COVID is due to a cytokine storm. If the lower immune response prevents a cytokine storm, that could save many people's lives. Just that is a very bad way to reduce deaths.Martin Hash wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:47 amIt would explain why natural immunity is so much better (astoundingly so in some things I read) than the shamvaxx.TheOneX wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:45 amI do find this conclusion to be very interesting, though. As we have seen with omicron if you have had the vaccines it seems you are more likely to catch omicron. This matches up well with their findings that the mRNA vaccines can affect cells in a way associated with a lower immune system response.We showed that mRNA vaccine (Pfizer) changes mitochondria by downregulation of cytochrome c resulting in lower effectiveness of respiration (oxidative phosphorylation) and lower ATP production. It can lead to lower immune system response.
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Natural immunity is superior to a rushed dna modification. Who could have predicted this?
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Is it possible that people that have been vaxxed are more likely to "catch" Covid, b/c the vaxxed are more likely to get tested and worry about whether they have Covid?
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Are you ranting about vaccines again?SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:57 amIt’s almost as if we don’t know what the fuck we’re doing with dna modification.
Hubris strikes again.
You are like that homeless guy on the L-train arguing with his reflection in the window.
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(1) It's not endemic. You don't know what that word means. We are still deep in the pandemic stage. People need to stop using words they don't understand just because politically they want for this to be over when it simply is not over.Hastur wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:31 amYou can't eradicate a virus that has an animal reservoir. Are you going to double vax and quadruple boost all the white-tailed deer and all other animals that can get Covid in the US?
This virus is endemic and will remain so. Pray for mild variants from now on.
(2) Having animal reservoirs makes it more difficult. Saying we should live like fucking barbarians because something is too difficult -- to me anyway -- sounds embarrassingly ignorant. We can ignore stupid or ideological (delusional) people and start working on various technologies to eradicate the virus. Its quite amazing to me that a significant portion of the western right has embraced a virus as their cause celebre. Plague enthusiasm, at best, is the madness that happened to weak minds by the second year of the pandemic; at worst it's a death cult. There is nothing controversial about looking for a cure to the disease. I mean.. Listen to yourselves right now. You are on the side of a deadly virus. Jesus Christ this place has gotten fucking nuts.
Ya'll motherfuckers need Jesus, for real. Wishing to perpetuate a deadly pandemic upon humanity forever because.. I dunno.. Trump lost or whatever.. that's just hateful deep down. I think most of you don't want it to end. You are emotionally invested in defending a fucking pandemic. This isn't about any particular solution. You literally defend keeping the pandemic going.
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I feel like Christ is protecting meSpeaker to Animals wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:04 am
Ya'll motherfuckers need Jesus, for real. Wishing to perpetuate a deadly pandemic upon humanity forever because.. I dunno.. Trump lost or whatever.. that's just hateful deep down. I think most of you don't want it to end. You are emotionally invested in defending a fucking pandemic. This isn't about any particular solution. You literally defend keeping the pandemic going.
not necessarily to keep me alive per se
I am born to die
I just feel like God does not intend me to die of Covid
I feel a purpose, a path I am drawn along, towards a death with meaning
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What is the difference between something being a pandemic versus something being endemic?Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:04 am(1) It's not endemic. You don't know what that word means. We are still deep in the pandemic stage. People need to stop using words they don't understand just because politically they want for this to be over when it simply is not over.Hastur wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:31 amYou can't eradicate a virus that has an animal reservoir. Are you going to double vax and quadruple boost all the white-tailed deer and all other animals that can get Covid in the US?
This virus is endemic and will remain so. Pray for mild variants from now on.
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https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... s+pandemicTheOneX wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:13 amWhat is the difference between something being a pandemic versus something being endemic?Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:04 am(1) It's not endemic. You don't know what that word means. We are still deep in the pandemic stage. People need to stop using words they don't understand just because politically they want for this to be over when it simply is not over.Hastur wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:31 amYou can't eradicate a virus that has an animal reservoir. Are you going to double vax and quadruple boost all the white-tailed deer and all other animals that can get Covid in the US?
This virus is endemic and will remain so. Pray for mild variants from now on.
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Don't link me, you explain the difference. Don't claim people don't know the difference if you cannot state the difference without doing a Google search.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:14 amhttps://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... s+pandemicTheOneX wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:13 amWhat is the difference between something being a pandemic versus something being endemic?Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:04 am
(1) It's not endemic. You don't know what that word means. We are still deep in the pandemic stage. People need to stop using words they don't understand just because politically they want for this to be over when it simply is not over.