Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Haumana
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:40 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:28 am
Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:21 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:18 am
you were invoking a siding with the "wrong team" should give one pause narrative

that's why I am chiming in
Oh.

But you didn't notice that it was Smitty that introduced the "wrong team" narrative? Or were you trying to so take exception with the call to pause because now that is the mainstream narrative? Suddenly you two , and I say two loosley because it is really a party of one plus one, have the popular thoughts on a matter? Let's get Dan Carlin on the horn!
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popularity isn't relevant in determining what is correct

argument ad populum

attacking the messengers to discredit the message

ad hominem

how popular a narrative is or who is pushing the narrative

is not relevant in how truthful a narrative is
Oh.

Are you guessing or do you know?

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:42 am

Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:37 am


Have either of you actually played out the scenario where you are wrong? What's that look like?
the Russians have launched an aggressive war of annihilation in contravention of Nuremberg

indiscriminately targeting civilian population centers in contravention of Hague & Geneva

and they have openly threatened us with thermonuclear war in an attempt at nuclear blackmail

so it is the Russians who have declared me to be their enemy, formally

so I'm not wrong
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:44 am

Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:40 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:28 am
Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:21 am


Oh.

But you didn't notice that it was Smitty that introduced the "wrong team" narrative? Or were you trying to so take exception with the call to pause because now that is the mainstream narrative? Suddenly you two , and I say two loosley because it is really a party of one plus one, have the popular thoughts on a matter? Let's get Dan Carlin on the horn!
.
popularity isn't relevant in determining what is correct

argument ad populum

attacking the messengers to discredit the message

ad hominem

how popular a narrative is or who is pushing the narrative

is not relevant in how truthful a narrative is
Oh.

Are you guessing or do you know?
I know a parade of fallacies when I see it

don't blame me for your counterpoints

being so weak and fallacious
*yip*

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:45 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:42 am

the Russians have launched an aggressive war of annihilation in contravention of Nuremberg

indiscriminately targeting civilian population centers in contravention of Hague & Geneva

and they have openly threatened us with thermonuclear war in an attempt at nuclear blackmail

so it is the Russians who have declared me to be their enemy, formally

so I'm not wrong
So say you. I'll wait for everyone's day in court. Present the evidence then I will decide. I am not moved by anything I have seen nor heard thus far. And it isn't from lack of trying.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:45 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:39 am
indeed

even the media declared puppet of Putin

the Bad Orange Man

is throwing him under the bus

he knows which way the political winds are blowing
Trump always said that if the Russians messed around like this, Trump would go to war against them
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:47 am

Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:45 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:42 am

the Russians have launched an aggressive war of annihilation in contravention of Nuremberg

indiscriminately targeting civilian population centers in contravention of Hague & Geneva

and they have openly threatened us with thermonuclear war in an attempt at nuclear blackmail

so it is the Russians who have declared me to be their enemy, formally

so I'm not wrong
So say you.
because I know what I'm taking about
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by StCapps » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:48 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:45 am
StCapps wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:39 am
indeed

even the media declared puppet of Putin

the Bad Orange Man

is throwing him under the bus

he knows which way the political winds are blowing
Trump always said that if the Russians messed around like this, Trump would go to war against them
it's no surprise Putin waited for Trump to leave office before messing around like this
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:51 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:47 am

because I know what I'm taking about
I can't say that that is not true. I have relied upon your insights for a long time now.

I am truly curious as to how this all plays out.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:53 am

Haumana wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:45 am
I am not moved by anything I have seen nor heard thus far.
I was just trying to answer your questions in good faith

since you are simply digging your heels in,

I will just move on

I don't really care whether you are moved or not
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Haumana » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:56 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:53 am


I was just trying to answer your questions in good faith

since you are simply digging your heels in,

I will just move on

I don't really care whether you are moved or not
Are you trying to pretend that your heels weren't already dug in?

Seriously? Now it is on me? That's cute. Where is Capps to come clean this one up?