Meanwhile in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:30 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:17 pm
It's totally evil.
it's so utterly Soviet, it is like a caricature of the Soviets

more Soviet than Soviet

nostalgia for a Soviet Union that never was

it's like the Soviet KGB, without the rest
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:34 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:13 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:06 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:24 am


Ugly war.

I've seen videos of civilians driving by tanks and throwing Molotovs on the tank.

Ugly insurgent war
This is Putin’s war... Everything here is on him.

I'm waiting for war crimes to be brought up by NATO or the UN.
Imagine Russia putting 30 Biolabs in Mexico while working with Cartels. Then Russia gives weapons to Cartels to shell Americans in Mexico. While trying to bring Mexico into full defensive partnership with Russia.

That's what it looks like from a Russian perspective.
No, that is what it looks like from Putin's perspective, but he also is attempting to say these things while he himself is probably guilty of it as well. Let's not forget, this is a bone, does the media (dog) go for the bone, or actually attempt to go for the steak?
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:45 pm

And bear in mind Putin has cost Russia in two weeks probably twice as many fatalities as Americans faced from two decades of war in Afghanistan. It's just fucking disgusting.

Imagine Biden sending several divisions into a nation like that with his war powers authorization, and by the time Congress gets around to debating whether to unauthorize it, we lost at least four thousand American troops.

A significant number of their fighters are lost. God knows how many tanks will be lost.

They are fucked.

But they still have about six thousand nuclear warheads which makes this really fucked up. Biden is not giving them an out at all. Nor are the Europeans.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:46 pm

it's not that I didn't think Putin was this dangerous

it's not that I didn't say Putin was this dangerous

it's not that I didn't have this pegged as an absolute worst case scenario

what I wasn't expecting was for the entire Ukrainian nation to stand & fight

with a war chief at the head of his troops

that has changed the dimensions of the conflict radically

that has forced me to choose a side
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by The Conservative » Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:48 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:46 pm
it's not that I didn't think Putin was this dangerous

it's not that I didn't say Putin was this dangerous

it's not that I didn't have this pegged as an absolute worst case scenario

what I wasn't expecting was for the entire Ukrainian nation to stand & fight

with a war chief at the head of his troops

that has changed the dimensions of the conflict radically

that has forced me to choose a side
What the hell did you think was going to happen, they were going to get on their knees and suck Putin's dick in apology for being a bad boy?

Any country that does that deserves what it gets, any country that stands up to tyranny deserves our respect.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:50 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:45 pm
But they still have about six thousand nuclear warheads which makes this really fucked up.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:01 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:17 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:14 pm
Can Russia actually be this bad ? Has Russia sent their best troops to the Ukraine ? If not, why not ?
It's entirely possible Russia has been a paper tiger all along. But have we seen Spetznatz and elite Russian units in this ?

This is a really weird war.
Yes, dude. Maybe Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump got it wrong.
Well, Trump picked General Milley and he showed his competency during the withdrawl from Afghanistan.

No, what has me curious is how Russia went about this and the units they have been using. Most of the Russian troops I've seen have been Russian National Guard, the General captured was National Guard, not regular Army. Plus Chechen, Tajiks, Siberians and Uzbeks. Front line Guards units, Spetznatz are not being used as far as I can tell, why ?

A Siberian Mayor got lit up by local residents on their sons being sent as canon fodder. They were supposed to be on normal drills and maneuvers, weren't told they were going to war or their objectives. All very Soviet. The article talks about how this is exactly how they started the Afghan war. https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-soldier ... 39187.html

Is this how Russia does war ? It's all very strange.
Is Putin using up ethnic non-Russians.

I don't have answers, just questions.
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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:03 pm

breaking

Poland is transferring their MiG-29's to Ramstein

preparing to hand them over to the Ukrainians

Polish MiGs in the Fulda Gap on their way to fight the Soviets in Ukraine

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:07 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:01 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:17 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:14 pm
Can Russia actually be this bad ? Has Russia sent their best troops to the Ukraine ? If not, why not ?
It's entirely possible Russia has been a paper tiger all along. But have we seen Spetznatz and elite Russian units in this ?

This is a really weird war.
Yes, dude. Maybe Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump got it wrong.
Well, Trump picked General Milley and he showed his competency during the withdrawl from Afghanistan.

No, what has me curious is how Russia went about this and the units they have been using. Most of the Russian troops I've seen have been Russian National Guard, the General captured was National Guard, not regular Army. Plus Chechen, Tajiks, Siberians and Uzbeks. Front line Guards units, Spetznatz are not being used as far as I can tell, why ?

A Siberian Mayor got lit up by local residents on their sons being sent as canon fodder. They were supposed to be on normal drills and maneuvers, weren't told they were going to war or their objectives. All very Soviet. The article talks about how this is exactly how they started the Afghan war. https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-soldier ... 39187.html

Is this how Russia does war ? It's all very strange.
Is Putin using up ethnic non-Russians.

I don't have answers, just questions.
Dude, Ukrainian snipers just killed a Spetznaz deputy commander. Those guys getting fucked up on that road are their best, man.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine ... ct-1684441


It's happening.

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Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine

Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:12 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:07 pm

Dude, Ukrainian snipers just killed a Spetznaz deputy commander. Those guys getting fucked up on that road are their best, man.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine ... ct-1684441


It's happening.
That's good to know.

I have developed a policy of waiting 48-72 hours before trusting any Pro-Ukraine news though. Too much disinformation, I don't want to spread Samyul Hydokov lies.
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