Oh most definitely. But that material would still go into the star. Effects unknown.
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long before the device itself melted, the radiation from the sun would fry the circuits
the solar wind is a neutron storm, you fry in those neutrons long before you get close to it
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it's actually plausible that a hydrogen bomb warhead would in fact detonate en route to the sun
not the plutonium first stage
but the second stage, the Lithium-Detueride, the neutrons blasting off the sun could cause that to fuse resulting in a critical mass in reverse
not the plutonium first stage
but the second stage, the Lithium-Detueride, the neutrons blasting off the sun could cause that to fuse resulting in a critical mass in reverse
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I have to think a scrap, not even a sand grain comparatively speaking, of plutonium hitting something 109 times larger than earth - would have negligible effects.
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it would never hit the sun, it wouldn't even get close
the plutonium needs the explosive lenses to implode it, and the circuits which fire those would not survive the radiation on approach
the second stage however is detonated by neutron bombardment
so the neutron bombardment of the sun could cause that to fuse without electronic command, no circuits, the sun simply does the job of the plutonium
but nothing is going to actually hit the sun, if it didn't explode en route, it would melt at great distance from the sun
or order to impact the sun, something has to be able to survive 5000 Kelvin, and pretty much everything on earth vaporizes long before it gets to there
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Yeah, I guess I just don't have the knowledge on the vaporization vs gravitational pull of the sun ratio. I would think it would vaporize, of course. But .. there has to be a speed with which you launch it where the velocity plus the pull of the sun's gravity gets it to the solar surface.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:38 pmit would never hit the sun, it wouldn't even get close
the plutonium needs the explosive lenses to implode it, and the circuits which fire those would not survive the radiation on approach
the second stage however is detonated by neutron bombardment
so the neutron bombardment of the sun could cause that to fuse without electronic command, no circuits, the sun simply does the job of the plutonium
but nothing is going to actually hit the sun, if it didn't explode en route, it would melt at great distance from the sun
or order to impact the sun, something has to be able to survive 5000 Kelvin, and pretty much everything on earth vaporizes long before it gets to there
Or ... maybe not. Maybe that speed would cause its own friction with the gasses surrounding the surface of the sun and finish it off like a meteorite hitting our atmosphere.
Wish we had a triple doctor to ask or something.
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it's not so much speed, it's just massDBTrek wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:47 pmYeah, I guess I just don't have the knowledge on the vaporization vs gravitational pull of the sun ratio. I would think it would vaporize, of course. But .. there has to be a speed with which you launch it where the velocity plus the pull of the sun's gravity gets it to the solar surface.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:38 pmit would never hit the sun, it wouldn't even get close
the plutonium needs the explosive lenses to implode it, and the circuits which fire those would not survive the radiation on approach
the second stage however is detonated by neutron bombardment
so the neutron bombardment of the sun could cause that to fuse without electronic command, no circuits, the sun simply does the job of the plutonium
but nothing is going to actually hit the sun, if it didn't explode en route, it would melt at great distance from the sun
or order to impact the sun, something has to be able to survive 5000 Kelvin, and pretty much everything on earth vaporizes long before it gets to there
Or ... maybe not. Maybe that speed would cause its own friction with the gasses surrounding the surface of the sun and finish it off like a meteorite hitting our atmosphere.
Wish we had a triple doctor to ask or something.
like you would have to have something big enough so it could burn off its outer layers and still get through to the sun
but 5000 Kelvin is twice as hot as a blast furnace, so if your device is made of metal it's going to melt away, unless it is like the size of an asteroid
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thing about the Sun, it's not actually that hot
for example a nuke is much hotter than the sun
but the Sun is sustained heat
the nuke is many times hotter than the sun, but only for a fraction of a second
whereas the sun is pumping out blast furnace heat for millions of miles around it, constantly
again tho, the sun is way more radioactive than it is hot, so the radiation is actually what fries you as you approach the Sun
for example a nuke is much hotter than the sun
but the Sun is sustained heat
the nuke is many times hotter than the sun, but only for a fraction of a second
whereas the sun is pumping out blast furnace heat for millions of miles around it, constantly
again tho, the sun is way more radioactive than it is hot, so the radiation is actually what fries you as you approach the Sun
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DBTrek wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:47 pm
Yeah, I guess I just don't have the knowledge on the vaporization vs gravitational pull of the sun ratio. I would think it would vaporize, of course. But .. there has to be a speed with which you launch it where the velocity plus the pull of the sun's gravity gets it to the solar surface.
https://skepticalinquirer.org/newslette ... r-the-sun/
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indeed, it's pretty far away, and then you have to slow down in order to fall into it when you get there, otherwise you overshootdoc_loliday wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:58 pmDBTrek wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:47 pm
Yeah, I guess I just don't have the knowledge on the vaporization vs gravitational pull of the sun ratio. I would think it would vaporize, of course. But .. there has to be a speed with which you launch it where the velocity plus the pull of the sun's gravity gets it to the solar surface.
https://skepticalinquirer.org/newslette ... r-the-sun/
don't forget, space time is curved, so you can't fly straight into it, you have to orbit it and then descend from orbit
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