The Era of Biden

[SuburbanFarmer]

The sun?

There is some fringe science suggesting that putting heavy elements into the sun could cause it to go nova…. That would be an interesting end to humanity.

However the amount of rocket power to sink an orbiting object into the sun would be colossal.

no, our Sun is not massive enough to ever go super nova

the Sun will expand into a Red Giant then contract into a White Dwarf, but it's not a super nova class star

Not currently, but it’s entirely made up of light elements - hydrogen and helium. Adding a significant amount of plutonium may change things dramatically.

[Smitty-48]

There is some fringe science suggesting that putting heavy elements into the sun could cause it to go nova…. That would be an interesting end to humanity.

However the amount of rocket power to sink an orbiting object into the sun would be colossal.

no, our Sun is not massive enough to ever go super nova

the Sun will expand into a Red Giant then contract into a White Dwarf, but it's not a super nova class star

Not currently, but it’s entirely made up of light elements - hydrogen and helium. Adding a significant amount of plutonium may change things dramatically.

it's not a question of materials, it's a question of mass

our Sun is tiny in the grand scheme of things, it's not a star that will end with an implosion

the stellar material of the expanded Red Giant Sun will just become a mantle around the cold White Dwarf core

to get a super nova, you need a Supermassive Red Giant, again, like Antares in Scorpius or Betelgeuse in Orion

those are the two stars you see in the sky which could implode into a super nova

only the very massive stars die in an implosion, most stars just expand, then cast the stellar material off leaving the core behind

when a supermassive star implodes, that creates a Black Hole, but our Sun is too light in mass to implode like that

it's like Alpha Orionis is 20 times the mass of our sun, 700 times the diameter

and that's not even that big by cosmic standards, but it's the closest thing which is that big which you can see in the sky

[SuburbanFarmer]

Nah, the theory is more that the highly radioactive elements set off a more intense chain reaction which fuses hydrogen more quickly.

Essentially like dropping a bit of gasoline into a fireplace. Not a big explosion, but a much more intense flame.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I suggest we all go out and get ‘mostly peaceful’. Ya know, racism

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/wat ... elder-eggs

[Smitty-48]

that material doesn't matter, all stars fuse their stellar material until they die, it's all the same materials

but our Sun is a Yellow Dwarf, and those do not die in a super nova

a Yellow Dwarf will expand into a Red Giant phase

the orbit of the Sun will expand out to about half way to Jupiter

but then it will just keep expanding until that stellar material flares off into a mantle, at the centre it will leave behind a White Dwarf core

the types of stars which implode into a super nova are Supermassive Red Giants, many times more massive and large than our Sun

you only get the super nova implosion when the star is so massive that its core collapses past White Dwarf into a Singularity

[SuburbanFarmer]

that material doesn't matter, all stars fuse their stellar material until they die, it's all the same materials

but our Sun is a Yellow Dwarf, and those do not die in a super nova

a Yellow Dwarf will expand into a Red Giant phase

the orbit of the Sun will expand out to about half way to Jupiter

but then it will just keep expanding until that stellar material flares off into a mantle, at the centre it will leave behind a White Dwarf core

the types of stars which implode into a super nova are Supermassive Red Giants, many times more massive and large than our Sun

Yes, and that expansion happens when it runs out of hydrogen, and begins to fuse helium. Hotter fire, bigger star.

If you threw a bunch of heavy unstable stuff in the mix, it might make more hydrogen fuse faster, and so on.

Not saying it’s true, but given that none of us really understand fusion, it seems plausible.

[Smitty-48]

that material doesn't matter, all stars fuse their stellar material until they die, it's all the same materials

but our Sun is a Yellow Dwarf, and those do not die in a super nova

a Yellow Dwarf will expand into a Red Giant phase

the orbit of the Sun will expand out to about half way to Jupiter

but then it will just keep expanding until that stellar material flares off into a mantle, at the centre it will leave behind a White Dwarf core

the types of stars which implode into a super nova are Supermassive Red Giants, many times more massive and large than our Sun

Yes, and that expansion happens when it runs out of hydrogen, and begins to fuse helium. Hotter fire, bigger star.

If you threw a bunch of heavy unstable stuff in the mix, it might make more hydrogen fuse faster, and so on.

it's not hotter, the expansionary phase is a result of cooling not heating, our star is hotter than a Red Giant while being much smaller in diameter

but it won't go super nova

you only get the super nova when the star is so massive that it collapses past White Dwarf into a critical mass core detonation

our star is not massive enough, our star will stop at White Dwarf

[SuburbanFarmer]

that material doesn't matter, all stars fuse their stellar material until they die, it's all the same materials

but our Sun is a Yellow Dwarf, and those do not die in a super nova

a Yellow Dwarf will expand into a Red Giant phase

the orbit of the Sun will expand out to about half way to Jupiter

but then it will just keep expanding until that stellar material flares off into a mantle, at the centre it will leave behind a White Dwarf core

the types of stars which implode into a super nova are Supermassive Red Giants, many times more massive and large than our Sun

Yes, and that expansion happens when it runs out of hydrogen, and begins to fuse helium. Hotter fire, bigger star.

If you threw a bunch of heavy unstable stuff in the mix, it might make more hydrogen fuse faster, and so on.

it's not hotter, the expansionary phase is a result of cooling not heating, our star is hotter than a Red Giant while being much smaller in diameter

but it won't go super nova

you only get the super nova when the star is so massive that it collapses past White Dwarf into a critical mass core detonation

our star is not massive enough, our star will stop at White Dwarf

You seem rather fixated on supernovae and black holes…. I’ll leave you to it.

[Smitty-48]

Yes, and that expansion happens when it runs out of hydrogen, and begins to fuse helium. Hotter fire, bigger star.

If you threw a bunch of heavy unstable stuff in the mix, it might make more hydrogen fuse faster, and so on.

it's not hotter, the expansionary phase is a result of cooling not heating, our star is hotter than a Red Giant while being much smaller in diameter

but it won't go super nova

you only get the super nova when the star is so massive that it collapses past White Dwarf into a critical mass core detonation

our star is not massive enough, our star will stop at White Dwarf

You seem rather fixated on supernovae and black holes…. I’ll leave you to it.

you are the one who invoked "nova"

that is specific ; a transient astronomical event which causes a "new" (nova) star in the sky

our sun will not end like that, there will be no nova at the end of Sol

just fyi

[DBTrek]

I somehow suspect the nuke would be incinerated long before nearing the surface of the sun.
I don't think it would do much.

But - maybe I'm wrong.