Meanwhile in Australia

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Re: Meanwhile in Australia

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:34 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:10 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:09 am
Instead we penalize the entire conglomerate like an individual. Brilliant solution.

Laughably small fees for ruining peoples’ lives become part of the operating budget.
better than the alternative

where they don't take any hit at all

instead of a laughably small one


obvious lesser evil is obvious

perfect is the enemy of good


if you come up with a better idea

that makes practical sense

on a large scale

lemme know

until then

whining about the status quo without a better alternative

is what the woke commies do
That’s easy. The CEO is now personally responsible for all crimes committed by the company under his watch, unless he can provide documented evidence that it a subordinate is directly responsible.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Meanwhile in Australia

Post by DBTrek » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:38 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:34 am
That’s easy. The CEO is now personally responsible for all crimes committed by the company under his watch, unless he can provide documented evidence that it a subordinate is directly responsible.
Response - All companies now are run by a council/oligarchy.
No more CEOs.
Your move.

And if you say "Well, then the whole council is responsible" - good luck with collective punishment against people who can afford the best attorneys in the USA.
Plus - if it gets to be an issue, every company "ruun" by a figurehead council made up of non-US citizens.

Simple solutions only seem like an easy answer until you entertain the many, many ways they can be easily circumvented.
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Re: Meanwhile in Australia

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:43 am

DBTrek wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:38 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:34 am
That’s easy. The CEO is now personally responsible for all crimes committed by the company under his watch, unless he can provide documented evidence that it a subordinate is directly responsible.
Response - All companies now are run by a council/oligarchy.
No more CEOs.
Your move.

And if you say "Well, then the whole council is responsible" - good luck with collective punishment against people who can afford the best attorneys in the USA.
Plus - if it gets to be an issue, every company "ruun" by a figurehead council made up of non-US citizens.

Simple solutions only seem like an easy answer until you entertain the many, many ways they can be easily circumvented.
Not seeing the issue here. We have plenty of room in our prisons for figureheads.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Meanwhile in Australia

Post by DBTrek » Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:49 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:43 am
DBTrek wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:38 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:34 am
That’s easy. The CEO is now personally responsible for all crimes committed by the company under his watch, unless he can provide documented evidence that it a subordinate is directly responsible.
Response - All companies now are run by a council/oligarchy.
No more CEOs.
Your move.

And if you say "Well, then the whole council is responsible" - good luck with collective punishment against people who can afford the best attorneys in the USA.
Plus - if it gets to be an issue, every company "ruun" by a figurehead council made up of non-US citizens.

Simple solutions only seem like an easy answer until you entertain the many, many ways they can be easily circumvented.
Not seeing the issue here. We have plenty of room in our prisons for figureheads.
Foreign nationals aren't going into your prisons.
Anyone you try to convict through collective punishment without proving guilty of committing a crime isn't going either.
Nice try tho.
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Re: Meanwhile in Australia

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:08 am

DBTrek wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:49 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:43 am
DBTrek wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:38 am


Response - All companies now are run by a council/oligarchy.
No more CEOs.
Your move.

And if you say "Well, then the whole council is responsible" - good luck with collective punishment against people who can afford the best attorneys in the USA.
Plus - if it gets to be an issue, every company "ruun" by a figurehead council made up of non-US citizens.

Simple solutions only seem like an easy answer until you entertain the many, many ways they can be easily circumvented.
Not seeing the issue here. We have plenty of room in our prisons for figureheads.
Foreign nationals aren't going into your prisons.
Anyone you try to convict through collective punishment without proving guilty of committing a crime isn't going either.
Nice try tho.
Dude we make CEOs sign the financial docs already. There’s no reason we couldnt be holding them directly responsible for operations as well.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Meanwhile in Australia

Post by DBTrek » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:13 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:08 am
Dude we make CEOs sign the financial docs already. There’s no reason we couldnt be holding them directly responsible for operations as well.
Already got rid of CEOs in step #1.
Not sure who you're talking about.
No CEOs here.
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Re: Meanwhile in Australia

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:27 am

DBTrek wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:13 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:08 am
Dude we make CEOs sign the financial docs already. There’s no reason we couldnt be holding them directly responsible for operations as well.
Already got rid of CEOs in step #1.
Not sure who you're talking about.
No CEOs here.
Again, not seeing the problem. We have Sarbanes-Oxley requiring someone to sign off on the financials. That requires a CEO/CFO.
I don’t care if it’s Greg in Accounting, that motherfucker will be on the hook.

My new law requires that someone sign off on all company directives. When I find an oil spill from BP destroying the Gulf of Mexico, Greg in Accounting is going down hard.

I don’t need to punish the entire council of diverse females - those bitches will be scrambling to pin the blame long before charges are brought.

Somebody pays. Then all the other oil drillers take note and get their shit together.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Meanwhile in Australia

Post by StCapps » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:33 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:27 am
Somebody pays. Then all the other oil drillers take note and get their shit together.
that's not how it works

having to throw a patsy under the bus is not a deterrent for bad behavior

that is, in fact, significantly less of a deterrent than the status quo

hard fail

having to throw Greg in accounting under the bus, is not going to give any corporation any pause whatsoever

wishful thinking is a helluva drug

you live in a delusional dream world
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Re: Meanwhile in Australia

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:06 pm

StCapps wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:33 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:27 am
Somebody pays. Then all the other oil drillers take note and get their shit together.
that's not how it works

having to throw a patsy under the bus is not a deterrent for bad behavior

that is, in fact, significantly less of a deterrent than the status quo

hard fail

having to throw Greg in accounting under the bus, is not going to give any corporation any pause whatsoever

wishful thinking is a helluva drug

you live in a delusional dream world
I admit that it does require some higher level thinking.

How much money do you think Greg in accounting will require to take on that responsibility? He’s going to want a seat on the board, and he’s going to take company operations pretty goddamn seriously.

The point is that you’re pre-assigning responsibility for the company’s actions. The only guy willing to do that will be the COO. That’s no patsy, it’s a serious loss.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Meanwhile in Australia

Post by StCapps » Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:11 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:06 pm
The point is that you’re pre-assigning responsibility for the company’s actions. The only guy willing to do that will be the COO. That’s no patsy, it’s a serious loss.
it's a much bigger loss if the whole corporation suffers, and not just the patsy

your plan is less deterrence than currently in place

but you wanna front like you are anti-corporation?

the fuck outta here

you're actually a useful idiot staning for the corporations
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