That’s easy. The CEO is now personally responsible for all crimes committed by the company under his watch, unless he can provide documented evidence that it a subordinate is directly responsible.StCapps wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:10 ambetter than the alternativeSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:09 amInstead we penalize the entire conglomerate like an individual. Brilliant solution.
Laughably small fees for ruining peoples’ lives become part of the operating budget.
where they don't take any hit at all
instead of a laughably small one
obvious lesser evil is obvious
perfect is the enemy of good
if you come up with a better idea
that makes practical sense
on a large scale
lemme know
until then
whining about the status quo without a better alternative
is what the woke commies do
Meanwhile in Australia
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Response - All companies now are run by a council/oligarchy.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:34 amThat’s easy. The CEO is now personally responsible for all crimes committed by the company under his watch, unless he can provide documented evidence that it a subordinate is directly responsible.
No more CEOs.
Your move.
And if you say "Well, then the whole council is responsible" - good luck with collective punishment against people who can afford the best attorneys in the USA.
Plus - if it gets to be an issue, every company "ruun" by a figurehead council made up of non-US citizens.
Simple solutions only seem like an easy answer until you entertain the many, many ways they can be easily circumvented.
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Not seeing the issue here. We have plenty of room in our prisons for figureheads.DBTrek wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:38 amResponse - All companies now are run by a council/oligarchy.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:34 amThat’s easy. The CEO is now personally responsible for all crimes committed by the company under his watch, unless he can provide documented evidence that it a subordinate is directly responsible.
No more CEOs.
Your move.
And if you say "Well, then the whole council is responsible" - good luck with collective punishment against people who can afford the best attorneys in the USA.
Plus - if it gets to be an issue, every company "ruun" by a figurehead council made up of non-US citizens.
Simple solutions only seem like an easy answer until you entertain the many, many ways they can be easily circumvented.
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Foreign nationals aren't going into your prisons.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:43 amNot seeing the issue here. We have plenty of room in our prisons for figureheads.DBTrek wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:38 amResponse - All companies now are run by a council/oligarchy.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:34 amThat’s easy. The CEO is now personally responsible for all crimes committed by the company under his watch, unless he can provide documented evidence that it a subordinate is directly responsible.
No more CEOs.
Your move.
And if you say "Well, then the whole council is responsible" - good luck with collective punishment against people who can afford the best attorneys in the USA.
Plus - if it gets to be an issue, every company "ruun" by a figurehead council made up of non-US citizens.
Simple solutions only seem like an easy answer until you entertain the many, many ways they can be easily circumvented.
Anyone you try to convict through collective punishment without proving guilty of committing a crime isn't going either.
Nice try tho.
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Dude we make CEOs sign the financial docs already. There’s no reason we couldnt be holding them directly responsible for operations as well.DBTrek wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:49 amForeign nationals aren't going into your prisons.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:43 amNot seeing the issue here. We have plenty of room in our prisons for figureheads.DBTrek wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:38 am
Response - All companies now are run by a council/oligarchy.
No more CEOs.
Your move.
And if you say "Well, then the whole council is responsible" - good luck with collective punishment against people who can afford the best attorneys in the USA.
Plus - if it gets to be an issue, every company "ruun" by a figurehead council made up of non-US citizens.
Simple solutions only seem like an easy answer until you entertain the many, many ways they can be easily circumvented.
Anyone you try to convict through collective punishment without proving guilty of committing a crime isn't going either.
Nice try tho.
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Already got rid of CEOs in step #1.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:08 amDude we make CEOs sign the financial docs already. There’s no reason we couldnt be holding them directly responsible for operations as well.
Not sure who you're talking about.
No CEOs here.
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Again, not seeing the problem. We have Sarbanes-Oxley requiring someone to sign off on the financials. That requires a CEO/CFO.DBTrek wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:13 amAlready got rid of CEOs in step #1.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:08 amDude we make CEOs sign the financial docs already. There’s no reason we couldnt be holding them directly responsible for operations as well.
Not sure who you're talking about.
No CEOs here.
I don’t care if it’s Greg in Accounting, that motherfucker will be on the hook.
My new law requires that someone sign off on all company directives. When I find an oil spill from BP destroying the Gulf of Mexico, Greg in Accounting is going down hard.
I don’t need to punish the entire council of diverse females - those bitches will be scrambling to pin the blame long before charges are brought.
Somebody pays. Then all the other oil drillers take note and get their shit together.
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that's not how it worksSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:27 amSomebody pays. Then all the other oil drillers take note and get their shit together.
having to throw a patsy under the bus is not a deterrent for bad behavior
that is, in fact, significantly less of a deterrent than the status quo
hard fail
having to throw Greg in accounting under the bus, is not going to give any corporation any pause whatsoever
wishful thinking is a helluva drug
you live in a delusional dream world
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I admit that it does require some higher level thinking.StCapps wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:33 amthat's not how it worksSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:27 amSomebody pays. Then all the other oil drillers take note and get their shit together.
having to throw a patsy under the bus is not a deterrent for bad behavior
that is, in fact, significantly less of a deterrent than the status quo
hard fail
having to throw Greg in accounting under the bus, is not going to give any corporation any pause whatsoever
wishful thinking is a helluva drug
you live in a delusional dream world
How much money do you think Greg in accounting will require to take on that responsibility? He’s going to want a seat on the board, and he’s going to take company operations pretty goddamn seriously.
The point is that you’re pre-assigning responsibility for the company’s actions. The only guy willing to do that will be the COO. That’s no patsy, it’s a serious loss.
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it's a much bigger loss if the whole corporation suffers, and not just the patsySuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:06 pmThe point is that you’re pre-assigning responsibility for the company’s actions. The only guy willing to do that will be the COO. That’s no patsy, it’s a serious loss.
your plan is less deterrence than currently in place
but you wanna front like you are anti-corporation?
the fuck outta here
you're actually a useful idiot staning for the corporations
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