The Era of Biden

[Smitty-48]

No.

You are retreating from you idiotic positions to a nebulous counterfactual claim about the negative consequences of maintaining a small force in Afghanistan.

you are the one backpedalling and moving goal posts, Captain Projection

My initial position was that it wasn't a mistake to invade Afghanistan

it was debatable at the time whether AQ was even still in country

Operation Mountain Thrust pretty much determined that they had fled, into Pakistan

after that, the mission creeped into nation building under NATO command

[Montegriffo]

As far as “Centrist” goes, if the Left is authoritarian and the Right is Liberty, Smitty is the closest thing we have to that.

That's not how it is though.
The extremes on both sides are authoritarian and the centre is the most liberal.

[Martin Hash]

As far as “Centrist” goes, if the Left is authoritarian and the Right is Liberty, Smitty is the closest thing we have to that.

That's not how it is though.
The extremes on both sides are authoritarian and the centre is the most liberal.

Do you think you’re liberal? Aren’t you a Masker/Vaxxer?

[Martin Hash]

Authoritarianism is the dividing line: whether public or private, both are vs. individual autonomy.

[Smitty-48]

As far as “Centrist” goes, if the Left is authoritarian and the Right is Liberty, Smitty is the closest thing we have to that.

That's not how it is though.
The extremes on both sides are authoritarian and the centre is the most liberal.

fuck anybody who invokes the centre

I can parley with those on the left

but I will not abide those who invoke a centre with does not exist

pick a side, or make yourself an enemy by default

[SuburbanFarmer]

As far as “Centrist” goes, if the Left is authoritarian and the Right is Liberty, Smitty is the closest thing we have to that.

That's not how it is though.
The extremes on both sides are authoritarian and the centre is the most liberal.

fuck anybody who invokes the centre

I can parley with those on the left

but I will not abide those who invoke a centre with does not exist

pick a side, or make yourself an enemy by default

Cest la vie.

[Smitty-48]

That's not how it is though.
The extremes on both sides are authoritarian and the centre is the most liberal.

fuck anybody who invokes the centre

I can parley with those on the left

but I will not abide those who invoke a centre with does not exist

pick a side, or make yourself an enemy by default

Cest la vie.

you are totally expendable downrange, as is anyone else who invokes a false centre

[Smitty-48]

I am only against scapegoating Monte as the only traitor in the ranks

if you want to ban Monte, Grumpy, and Hanarchy, I'm fine with that

just keep it fair, ban all the traitors together

[DBTrek]

Whoa, whoa, whoa ... guys ... just an Afghanistan discussion.
We can't ban all opposing voices on account of them being authoritarian and not wind up with a critical dose of hypocrisy dripping from ourselves, eh?

[Smitty-48]

Whoa, whoa, whoa ... guys ... just an Afghanistan discussion.
We can't ban all opposing voices on account of them being authoritarian and not wind up with a critical dose of hypocrisy dripping from ourselves, eh?

it's a private forum, Marty can ban who he pleases, he can ban me if likes

I just advocate for consistency

Monte, Grumpy & Hanarchy are the same, ban them all if you are banning Monte

fair is fair