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Smitty-48
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by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:46 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:43 am
StCapps wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:37 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:35 am
No.
You are retreating from you idiotic positions to a nebulous counterfactual claim about the negative consequences of maintaining a small force in Afghanistan.
you are the one backpedalling and moving goal posts, Captain Projection
My initial position was that it wasn't a mistake to invade Afghanistan
it was debatable at the time whether AQ was even still in country
Operation Mountain Thrust pretty much determined that they had fled, into Pakistan
after that, the mission creeped into nation building under NATO command
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Montegriffo
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by Montegriffo » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:48 am
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:24 am
As far as “Centrist” goes, if the Left is authoritarian and the Right is Liberty, Smitty is the closest thing we have to that.
That's not how it is though.
The extremes on both sides are authoritarian and the centre is the most liberal.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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by Martin Hash » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:50 am
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:48 am
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:24 am
As far as “Centrist” goes, if the Left is authoritarian and the Right is Liberty, Smitty is the closest thing we have to that.
That's not how it is though.
The extremes on both sides are authoritarian and the centre is the most liberal.
Do you think you’re liberal? Aren’t you a Masker/Vaxxer?
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by Martin Hash » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:51 am
Authoritarianism is the dividing line: whether public or private, both are vs. individual autonomy.
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Smitty-48
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by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:52 am
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:48 am
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:24 am
As far as “Centrist” goes, if the Left is authoritarian and the Right is Liberty, Smitty is the closest thing we have to that.
That's not how it is though.
The extremes on both sides are authoritarian and the centre is the most liberal.
fuck anybody who invokes the centre
I can parley with those on the left
but I will not abide those who invoke a centre with does not exist
pick a side, or make yourself an enemy by default
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SuburbanFarmer
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by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:53 am
Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:52 am
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:48 am
Martin Hash wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:24 am
As far as “Centrist” goes, if the Left is authoritarian and the Right is Liberty, Smitty is the closest thing we have to that.
That's not how it is though.
The extremes on both sides are authoritarian and the centre is the most liberal.
fuck anybody who invokes the centre
I can parley with those on the left
but I will not abide those who invoke a centre with does not exist
pick a side, or make yourself an enemy by default
Cest la vie.
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by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:54 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:53 am
Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:52 am
Montegriffo wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:48 am
That's not how it is though.
The extremes on both sides are authoritarian and the centre is the most liberal.
fuck anybody who invokes the centre
I can parley with those on the left
but I will not abide those who invoke a centre with does not exist
pick a side, or make yourself an enemy by default
Cest la vie.
you are totally expendable downrange, as is anyone else who invokes a false centre
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by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:56 am
I am only against scapegoating Monte as the only traitor in the ranks
if you want to ban Monte, Grumpy, and Hanarchy, I'm fine with that
just keep it fair, ban all the traitors together
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by DBTrek » Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:03 am
Whoa, whoa, whoa ... guys ... just an Afghanistan discussion.
We can't ban all opposing voices on account of them being
authoritarian and not wind up with a critical dose of hypocrisy dripping from ourselves, eh?
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by Smitty-48 » Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:06 am
DBTrek wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:03 am
Whoa, whoa, whoa ... guys ... just an Afghanistan discussion.
We can't ban all opposing voices on account of them being
authoritarian and not wind up with a critical dose of hypocrisy dripping from ourselves, eh?
it's a private forum, Marty can ban who he pleases, he can ban me if likes
I just advocate for consistency
Monte, Grumpy & Hanarchy are the same, ban them all if you are banning Monte
fair is fair
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