The Era of Biden

[C-Mag]

How does leaving Afghanistan to the Taliban hurt China or strike a blow against big pharma?

Shut Up and get your jab booster shots

[Smitty-48]

Dude, when I run for office I’m called “Far Left” AND “Far Right.” It’s because the real division is liberty vs. authoritarianism.

there is no center

George W. Bush got one thing right, you're either wit us, or agin us

anybody claiming to be in the center, is just a crypto Woke disgruntled Democrat useful idiot

I’ve seen Farmer put on our team jacket.

it's your call, not my forum

[Martin Hash]

there is no center

George W. Bush got one thing right, you're either wit us, or agin us

anybody claiming to be in the center, is just a crypto Woke disgruntled Democrat useful idiot

I’ve seen Farmer put on our team jacket.

it's your call, not my forum

It kinda is…

[C-Mag]

Now that we are out of Afghanistan I guess we can end the TSA and rescind the Patriot Act

[SuburbanFarmer]

There’s a lot of wisdom here. But you guys aren’t right about everything.

I’m with you on most things tho.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Now that we are out of Afghanistan I guess we can end the TSA and rescind the Patriot Act

^^^^^^^^

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

in terms of hurting China, it is drawing them down a rabbit hole

making Pakistan China's problem is a good thing

let them get drawn into that

this was the original mission in Afghanistan, way back in 1979

let the Communists get dragged into that quagmire, make it into their Vietnam

Vietnam was already the Communists Vietnam.

China benefits whenever America looks weak, loses allies, and loses influence.

America is weak, there's no way to solve that problem in Afghanistan tho

Sorry, I missed this response.

If America is that weak globally and Pax-Americana is already over, then you are right - being in Afghanistan is not likely to change that.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to prove that one way or the other without the benefit of at least another generation of hindsight.

[Martin Hash]

As far as “Centrist” goes, if the Left is authoritarian and the Right is Liberty, Smitty is the closest thing we have to that.

[Smitty-48]

I’ve seen Farmer put on our team jacket.

it's your call, not my forum

It kinda is…

I'm only here to support you

you are the commander, I just follow you

[StCapps]

Yes, I was literally recommending a Canadian invasion force.

And you accuse ME of being disingenuous.

Jesus Fucking Christ. At least StA had mental issues as an excuse, which leads to confirm my suspicions about you. (Just talking here, trying to figure out what we're dealing with?)

My prediction is that there will be negative consequences to this withdraw. If nothing else, we already agree that it is embarrassing - and I expect embarrassing failures will have bad downstream effects.

Everyone else here seems to disagree - but everyone here seems to be basing foreign policy decisions on what will irritate the Woke domestically.

Time will tell.

wrong

of course there will be negative consequences to the withdrawal

the negative consequences of not withdrawing, are simply much bigger

obvious better choice is obvious

nice motte and bailey

but the motte you retreated to is still not a defensible position