The Era of Biden

[Martin Hash]

Now with drones, not only can government target Alex Jones, they can kill AQs all around the world. Hell, even a transgender pussy with green hair could do it.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Either debate your side honestly or shut the fuck up.

What is unclear or dishonest about that statement?

He already admitted it was a mistake to go into Afghanistan: in fact, he's disavowed whatever misguided initial response he had to 9/11, so if you're being snide, shut up already. BUT, if you want to defend all of that, go at it: I'm sure lots of people here would like to see you squirm.

I am arguing that it was not a mistake.

Going into Afghanistan wasn't a mistake, and holding Afghanistan with 5-10 thousand troops as a force multiplier for the ANDSF was a perfectly sustainable status quo.

[StCapps]

What mistake? The Taliban was harboring, and will continue to harbor Al Qaeda. That makes them an enemy two decades ago and an enemy today.

there were two distinct operations, US CENTCOM Operation Enduring Freedom

that mission was simply to go after AQ, and that mission was completed in 2003

the second operation started from there, under NATO ISAF command

the nation building mission is not an American mission, it's been a NATO mission for eighteen years

We found massive AQ training camps in Afghanistan way after 2003.

there was one tiny training camp and not because the Taliban were harboring them

you are really dumb, for real

[Martin Hash]

What is unclear or dishonest about that statement?

He already admitted it was a mistake to go into Afghanistan: in fact, he's disavowed whatever misguided initial response he had to 9/11, so if you're being snide, shut up already. BUT, if you want to defend all of that, go at it: I'm sure lots of people here would like to see you squirm.

I am arguing that it was not a mistake.

Going into Afghanistan wasn't a mistake, and holding Afghanistan with 5-10 thousand troops as a force multiplier for the ANDSF was a perfectly sustainable status quo.

That is the Fascist position and you, Mitt Romney & Bill Crystol are Fascists... I don't debate Fascists or Marxists.

[C-Mag]

Is this what America looks like with the "adults back in charge"?
Someone ring up Dan Carlin so he can explain.

Bill Maher stealing DBs material

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/b ... drawal.amp

[Smitty-48]

I'm not convinced that Hanarchy doesn't genuinely believe the NATO propaganda

he may simply be too young to remember 9-11 and the wake of it as we do

[C-Mag]

We've all conveniently forgotten the overwhelming bi-partisan support for invading Afghanistan.

True
I'm not spending a lot of time on this, maybe that's wrong. I base that on understanding the passionate views in the wake of 9-11. For me, it's much more important to understand how we allow the mistake to continue for 2 decades.

What mistake? The Taliban was harboring, and will continue to harbor Al Qaeda. That makes them an enemy two decades ago and an enemy today.

Just Afghanistan ?
Why not Pakistan ? Chechnya ?

Libya, Egypt, Rawanda, Ethiopa ?

How about Mexican drug cartels, surely those are terrorists as well. What is Antifa, and BLM if not terrorists ?

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

there were two distinct operations, US CENTCOM Operation Enduring Freedom

that mission was simply to go after AQ, and that mission was completed in 2003

the second operation started from there, under NATO ISAF command

the nation building mission is not an American mission, it's been a NATO mission for eighteen years

We found massive AQ training camps in Afghanistan way after 2003.

not true

there was only one training camp, at Tarnak Farms

by the time the Canadians took it in 2002, it was just rubble

having been destroyed by TLAM's launched by Bill Clinton

AQIS was in Shorabak as late as 2015, and I expect they will return shortly. Maybe with a re-brand, like the AQ to AQIS re-brand.

[StCapps]

its not a mistake

America should invade all countries where terrorists exist

because they are "harboring" terrorists

Hanarchy logic

[Smitty-48]

We found massive AQ training camps in Afghanistan way after 2003.

not true

there was only one training camp, at Tarnak Farms

by the time the Canadians took it in 2002, it was just rubble

having been destroyed by TLAM's launched by Bill Clinton

AQIS was in Shorabak as late as 2015, and I expect they will return shortly. Maybe with a re-brand, like the AQ to AQIS re-brand.

the Sunni Arab Jihad has re-branded into ISIS

but actually, the Taliban are fighting ISIS in Afghanistan

this is why America & China are flipping to the side of the Taliban

the Taliban are going to be Chimerica's proxies against ISIS, maintaining order in Afghanistan

the Taliban are the only proxies which can secure Afghanistan for Chimerica