The Era of Biden

[StCapps]

it's more accurate to say that you invented it

it was the Hotak Dynasty founded in 1709

the buffer state of "Afghanistan" was an invention of the British Empire during the Great Game

A buffer at the Kaiber pass to stop the Persians from getting to the Jewel in the Crown?

not the Persians, the Persians were the Hotaks, that dynasty collapsed internally

by the time the Durand Line was established, it was against the Czar and his Russian Empire : Great Game

shoring up India's western flank to contain the Russians

[Smitty-48]

this is how America gets dragged into it

America in essence takes possession of the British Empire through the World Wars

America then becomes embroiled in Britain's Great Game in Central Asia

beginning in 1979, when Jimmy Carter sends the CIA in to destabilize the government in Kabul

under the auspices of the Carter Doctrine, which was really just a repackaging of the Domino Theory

this then incites the subsequent Soviet coup de'tat and invasion

[Smitty-48]

in terms of the Cold War logic of the Domino Theory, it was a sound strategy

it was a deliberate provocation, to incite an Islamic revolution which would spread to the USSR

the Soviets were so afraid of that, they take the bait, charge into their own Vietnam type adventure

it's a disaster for them, the Reagan Administration provides FIM-92 Stingers to the Muj, the Soviets eat that

the problem comes when the Soviets pull out and the Cold War ends

at which point Afghanistan is of no more use to Washington, so they abandon it overnight

this creates a power vacuum leading to a catastrophic civil war

in the wake of the total destruction of the civil society therein

the Taliban eventually emerge as the only force which can restore and maintain any sort of order

their methods may be brutal, but with no civil society, all methods are brutal, it's a harsh realm

NATO trying to build a civil society from the ground up modelled on Neoliberalism was a fool's errand, obviously

[The Conservative]

if you shouldn't have gone in at all, that doesn't mean you stay around and try to win a war where winning gets you nothing of value

sunk costs fallacy

You don't remember when we were on the DNC do you? I said a long time ago we should have been out of there after we didn't find UBL in there... and we should have let the UN take over and re-build the country...

The US military was an entity that chewed bubblegum and kicked ass, and it was all out of bubblegum.

Now, I have no fucking idea what it is meant to be...

yet here you are advocating to glass the place, just so America can claim an irrelevant "victory", indulging in a sunk cost fallacy

you first plan was better, protip

you want America to go back to kicking ass, Afghanistan ain't the place to do it, find a better target

If you are to "pull out" of a region, you do so by leaving NOTHING for the enemy to use, that means all our military bases, our embassies, all the places we had that contain US equipment that can't be taken with us should have been slagged. That is how it was in WWII... it should never have changed here...

If the Afghans could not maintain control, there should have been a metaphorical switch that should have been flipped and anything that was held by the US, should have been destroyed... leave the country in the same way we found it, a heap of slag and sand.

And you are right... I believe we should have leveled the place when we came through, scorched earth policy would have done well to cripple any resistance in our way. Then when we didn't find UBL, we should have packed up and let the UN take care of the end results.

The US is not a country designed to take care of, or build other countries up... end of story.

You don't win a war by wining the hearts and minds of the enemy, it didn't work for Germany, Russia, or any other country... why the fuck would it work for the US?

[C-Mag]

Women herded against a wall painted by the woke UN, promoting gender equality.

[The Conservative]

Women herded against a wall painted by the woke UN, promoting gender equality.

Oh, also if you noticed the people trying to flee? All men... where are the women? Well, I think the picture you just posted showed... the men are getting the fuck out and leaving the women to deal with the wrath of the enemy. Fucking cowards.

[Smitty-48]

in fairness to NATO, nation building was never really the motivation

that was merely a rubric, a make work project, sold to the public for domestic consumption

in reality, NATO countries were simply rendering unto American Caesar

Washington made it clear that participation under Article V was required to have Washington's favour

so the NATO countries deployed to curry favour in Washington on other issues, mostly trade

[StCapps]

You don't remember when we were on the DNC do you? I said a long time ago we should have been out of there after we didn't find UBL in there... and we should have let the UN take over and re-build the country...

The US military was an entity that chewed bubblegum and kicked ass, and it was all out of bubblegum.

Now, I have no fucking idea what it is meant to be...

yet here you are advocating to glass the place, just so America can claim an irrelevant "victory", indulging in a sunk cost fallacy

you first plan was better, protip

you want America to go back to kicking ass, Afghanistan ain't the place to do it, find a better target

If you are to "pull out" of a region, you do so by leaving NOTHING for the enemy to use, that means all our military bases, our embassies, all the places we had that contain US equipment that can't be taken with us should have been slagged. That is how it was in WWII... it should never have changed here...

If the Afghans could not maintain control, there should have been a metaphorical switch that should have been flipped and anything that was held by the US, should have been destroyed... leave the country in the same way we found it, a heap of slag and sand.

And you are right... I believe we should have leveled the place when we came through, scorched earth policy would have done well to cripple any resistance in our way. Then when we didn't find UBL, we should have packed up and let the UN take care of the end results.

The US is not a country designed to take care of, or build other countries up... end of story.

You don't win a war by wining the hearts and minds of the enemy, it didn't work for Germany, Russia, or any other country... why the fuck would it work for the US?

They never should have gone in, in the first place

if they did go in, boots on the ground was a bad plan

don't need boots on the ground to level the place

there wasn't much worth leveling in the place anyway

bouncing the rubble is a waste of resources

a meaningless show of force that scares no one

[Smitty-48]

They never should have gone in, in the first place

if they did go in, boots on the ground was a bad plan

don't need boots on the ground to level the place

America should have just stayed in after America went in, in 1979

once the Soviets were driven out, America could have used influence to keep a lid on the place

but once America dumped it, and it imploded, then America should not have charged back in

mind you, there is a middle way, which is stand off and strike from the sea as necessary

if ISIS for example masses on the battlefield, you can go ahead and bomb them, but no reason to do more

[Haumana]

Biden tells Taliban, Your government better be inclusive for Wammen

https://nationalfile.com/video-biden-re ... -of-women/

I bet they nominate a fat tranny to be their Minister of Health.