Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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So we were wrong to assume he was a terrorist? :eusa-think:
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A British Islamic State suicide bomber was freed from Guantanamo Bay after lobbying by UK’s left-wing government and paid £1 million of taxpayer’s money in compensation.
On his return to the UK, the then Labour party Home Secretary David Blunkett insisted: “No one who is returned… will actually be a threat to the security of the British people”.

Ronald Fiddler, known as Abu Zakariya al-Britani, blew himself up near the Iraqi city of Mosul this weekend, in an attack targeting coalition forces containing embedded British and American Special Forces advisers.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02 ... pensation/
There's a pretty good chance that locking somebody up in a hole without charge for 10 years, among a bunch of terrorists may, in fact, have made him a terrorist. One wonders...
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Speaker to Animals wrote:So we were wrong to assume he was a terrorist? :eusa-think:
Looks pretty shaky, yeah.

From the article:
Mr. Fiddler was found in a Taliban prison in Afghanistan in 2001 and held for two years at Camp X-Ray in Cuba, The Times reports. At one point he was accused of links to Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaeda.
After being released in 2004, Mr. Fiddler used his generous payout to buy a comfortable three-bedroom house near Manchester. However, after struggling to find work, he traveled to Turkey and crossed into Syria in April 2014.

His pregnant second wife, Shukee Begum, followed him soon after with her four young children.
Guy gets locked up for over a decade, given a payout, can't find work, goes home to shithole, realizes there's nothing to live for, and the US has already effectively ended his life.... (and somehow his "second wife" has 4 little kids now)..... Boom.
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Speaker to Animals wrote:So we were wrong to assume he was a terrorist? :eusa-think:
Assumption is not a great substitution for proof when it comes to locking someone up for 10yrs without trial. One might "assume" it could lead to resentment.
We may never know his motives......
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So whenever a man's life gets upended, he turns into a suicide bomber?

Or maybe he was always a terrorist? He did in fact blow himself up in a terror attack.
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Speaker to Animals wrote:So whenever a man's life gets upended, he turns into a suicide bomber?

Or maybe he was always a terrorist? He did in fact blow himself up in a terror attack.
I mean, from the catholic point of view, I guess you always were whatever you become... but for the rest of us, yes - you are a product of your environment and experiences.
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His family has spoken out today, claiming he was deeply affected by his time in prison first at the hands of the Taliban and then at Guantánamo. They also denied he received anything like £1m in compensation from David Cameron's Tory government.
His wife and children had to escape from Iraq after seeing what he was planning to do.
He was headed towards a check point manned by Shea militia and Iraqi soldiers when he blew himself up.
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Yeah, maybe it was just a coincidence that a man from Manchester converted to Islam, and was only coincidentally captured with Al Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan. It was only his imprisonment that turned him into a terrorist. It's all our fault.. :violin:
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Speaker to Animals wrote:Yeah, maybe it was just a coincidence that a man from Manchester converted to Islam, and was only coincidentally captured with Al Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan. It was only his imprisonment that turned him into a terrorist. It's all our fault.. :violin:
He was found by US special forces in a jail in Kandahar Afghanistan where he had been imprisoned by the Taliban after being accused of spying.
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Yeah, it was just a huge coincidence. He was only vacationing in Afghanistan when all this happened. Lots of Britons spent months embedded with AQ fighters in Afghanistan.. :roll: