What is “Good” Art?
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Re: What is “Good” Art?
some things that are high quality happen to be popular
some things that are popular happen to be high quality
but popularity and quality are not always linked
the hipsters go too far in thinking anything that is popular is low quality
if anything goes from obscure to popular, after they like it
all of a sudden it isn't cool anymore
they malign people who think that anything that is popular is high quality
if anything loses popularity after they like it
all of sudden it isn't cool anymore
both groups think that popularity and quality are inherently linked
meanwhile the hipsters are just like those very people they hate on
in that they allow the perception of others
to define their own tastes
both groups basically have no taste of their own
and let the crowd decide their opinion for them
then there is another group
who judge quality based on who the stereotypical fans of that thing are
they allow the quality of the fans
to control whether or not they enjoy what those fans enjoy
what you like and why you like it > how many people like it and who are they
some things that are popular happen to be high quality
but popularity and quality are not always linked
the hipsters go too far in thinking anything that is popular is low quality
if anything goes from obscure to popular, after they like it
all of a sudden it isn't cool anymore
they malign people who think that anything that is popular is high quality
if anything loses popularity after they like it
all of sudden it isn't cool anymore
both groups think that popularity and quality are inherently linked
meanwhile the hipsters are just like those very people they hate on
in that they allow the perception of others
to define their own tastes
both groups basically have no taste of their own
and let the crowd decide their opinion for them
then there is another group
who judge quality based on who the stereotypical fans of that thing are
they allow the quality of the fans
to control whether or not they enjoy what those fans enjoy
what you like and why you like it > how many people like it and who are they
*yip*
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Re: What is “Good” Art?
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: What is “Good” Art?
When the definition of “fine” art includes style, technique & craftsmanship, my plumber & dentist are artists.
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When I say Carl Barks and Jack Kirby are my favorite artists it’s because they did it all; everything came from their imaginations: story, characters, design, draftsmanship, choreography, presentation, even the business concerns, AND every part was rare & admirably done.
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Craftsmen are indeed artists. Thus the label of ‘artisan’.Martin Hash wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:40 amWhen the definition of “fine” art includes style, technique & craftsmanship, my plumber & dentist are artists.
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Lots of metrosexual douche bags call themselves artisans for selling you less for more and putting a bow on top.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:52 amCraftsmen are indeed artists. Thus the label of ‘artisan’.Martin Hash wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:40 amWhen the definition of “fine” art includes style, technique & craftsmanship, my plumber & dentist are artists.
The artistry of craftsmanship is often in the work. No wasted moves, and being able to produce premium work with average tools or materials.
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I agree but the Art snobs wouldn't. To keep art in its own category outside of craftsmen is why I call people who do all of the imagination themselves "artists."C-Mag wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 8:52 amLots of metrosexual douche bags call themselves artisans for selling you less for more and putting a bow on top.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:52 amCraftsmen are indeed artists. Thus the label of ‘artisan’.Martin Hash wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:40 amWhen the definition of “fine” art includes style, technique & craftsmanship, my plumber & dentist are artists.
The artistry of craftsmanship is often in the work. No wasted moves, and being able to produce premium work with average tools or materials.
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I'm not an art snob, but craftsmanship is not art in of itself
you can craft perfect replicas all you like, but that is not creative
that is the constant struggle of the artist, originality, something actually creative
that has to come from within somehow, up from the depths of your psyche, you own life & experiences
it's like I could replicate a Jack Kirby illustration, I could copy it perfectly by craftsmanship alone, big whoop
you can craft perfect replicas all you like, but that is not creative
that is the constant struggle of the artist, originality, something actually creative
that has to come from within somehow, up from the depths of your psyche, you own life & experiences
it's like I could replicate a Jack Kirby illustration, I could copy it perfectly by craftsmanship alone, big whoop
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Agreed. Craftmanship is really the ability to reproduce a desired result consistently. That's what you want from your contractor or someone cooking your food.
Art generally requires craftmanship, and is often missing from a lot of art. Everyone wants to be an artist, but few put in the hard work to be good enough, even fewer have the muse.
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this is why I pretty much gave up on comic art, I reached as far as I could godoc_loliday wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 9:42 amAgreed. Craftmanship is really the ability to reproduce a desired result consistently. That's what you want from your contractor or someone cooking your food.
Art generally requires craftmanship, and is often missing from a lot of art. Everyone wants to be an artist, but few put in the hard work to be good enough, even fewer have the muse.
I could replicate other guys styles, but I never had a style of my own
other people will look at it and admire the craftmanship, but when I look at it, I can see how it is derivative
so I switched to writing, my writing is more original than my illustration
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