Poking the Bear Again

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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:06 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:58 am

the danger is that they are weak, divided & incompetent
Weak, divided, and incompetent like a fox!
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:07 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:50 am
it comes from the delusion that Trump was somehow not a NeoCon, when of course he was
You can tell by the support he got from all the other NeoCons: the Bushes, Paul Ryan, The National Review, most of the Republican field, and the Lincoln Project.
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:08 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:39 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:34 am

You bother me, you fucking NeoCon.
you can't have it both ways, he's just a Reagan Democrat

this is MAGA, this is what MAGA is all about

get up in the Russians kitchen and calling their bluff was job one

under MAGA in 1981, America launched the largest naval manuevers since the Second World War

the US Navy went right up to the Russian coast and challenged them to fight World War Three
Reagan was incapacited by 1981 and Nancy Reagan's astrologer ran America's foreign policy. Is that the MAGA you're talking about?
the architect of the campaign was actually Secretary of the Navy John Lehman jr

the President is just the decider, he doesn't make the plans, he just signs off on them
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:09 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:08 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:39 am


you can't have it both ways, he's just a Reagan Democrat

this is MAGA, this is what MAGA is all about

get up in the Russians kitchen and calling their bluff was job one

under MAGA in 1981, America launched the largest naval manuevers since the Second World War

the US Navy went right up to the Russian coast and challenged them to fight World War Three
Reagan was incapacited by 1981 and Nancy Reagan's astrologer ran America's foreign policy. Is that the MAGA you're talking about?
the architect of the campaign was actually Secretary of the Navy John Lehman jr

the President is just the decider, he doesn't make the plans, he just signs off on them
Like now: Alzheimer's have to stick together.
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:07 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:50 am
it comes from the delusion that Trump was somehow not a NeoCon, when of course he was
You can tell by the support he got from all the other NeoCons: the Bushes, Paul Ryan, The National Review, most of the Republican field, and the Lincoln Project.
there were plenty of NeoCons in the Trump camp, Mike Pompeo most of all

Mike Pompeo was Trump's Dick Cheney

Mike Pompeo is probably going to run for President in 2024 to be Trump's successor
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:12 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:07 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:50 am
it comes from the delusion that Trump was somehow not a NeoCon, when of course he was
You can tell by the support he got from all the other NeoCons: the Bushes, Paul Ryan, The National Review, most of the Republican field, and the Lincoln Project.
there were plenty of NeoCons in the Trump camp, Mike Pompeo most of all

Mike Pompeo was Trump's Dick Cheney

Mike Pompeo is probably going to run for President in 2024 to be Trump's successor
I never followed him but the few times I did, he sounded like a Fascist. Trump was the worst judge of human character I have ever witnessed.
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:12 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:09 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:08 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:03 pm

Reagan was incapacited by 1981 and Nancy Reagan's astrologer ran America's foreign policy. Is that the MAGA you're talking about?
the architect of the campaign was actually Secretary of the Navy John Lehman jr

the President is just the decider, he doesn't make the plans, he just signs off on them
Like now. Alzheimer's have to stick together.
right, except Susan Rice & Co are prone to half measures, whereas John Lehman instituted peace through strength

NeoCons are not a monolith, some are more bad ass than others, for example my faction, the Thatcherites
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:13 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:12 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:07 pm

You can tell by the support he got from all the other NeoCons: the Bushes, Paul Ryan, The National Review, most of the Republican field, and the Lincoln Project.
there were plenty of NeoCons in the Trump camp, Mike Pompeo most of all

Mike Pompeo was Trump's Dick Cheney

Mike Pompeo is probably going to run for President in 2024 to be Trump's successor
I never followed him but the few times I did, he sounded like a Fascist. Trump was the worst judge of human character I have ever witnessed.
Mike Pompeo is a commited Neoconservative in the classical sense

but he was running the entire national security apparatus for Trump, same as Cheney did for W
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:15 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:12 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:09 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:08 pm


the architect of the campaign was actually Secretary of the Navy John Lehman jr

the President is just the decider, he doesn't make the plans, he just signs off on them
Like now. Alzheimer's have to stick together.
right, except Susan Rice & Co are prone to half measures, whereas John Lehman instituted peace through strength

NeoCons are not a monolith, some are more bad ass than others, for example my faction, the Thatcherites
I'm a Libertyist, as you know: my team lost big time so I'll just watch the Fascists vs. Commies for entertainment, with you providing ringside color commentary.
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:16 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:15 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:12 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:09 pm

Like now. Alzheimer's have to stick together.
right, except Susan Rice & Co are prone to half measures, whereas John Lehman instituted peace through strength

NeoCons are not a monolith, some are more bad ass than others, for example my faction, the Thatcherites
I'm a Libertyist, as you know: my team lost big time so I'll just watch the Fascists vs. Commies for entertainment, with you providing ringside color commentary.
there was the same split between the NeoCons in the Bush administration after 9-11

half the NeoCons sided with Cheney, but the other half didn't

it's like General Shinseki, you don't think he's a NeoCon ? Of course he is, but it's not a monolith
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