Poking the Bear Again

[Smitty-48]

in effect, MAGA broke the Soviets in 1981

it wasn't two destroyers in the Black Sea half measures

it was a massive Carrier Battle Group right in the Barents Sea

they flew bombing runs right over the Soviet submarine bases in Murmansk

and the Soviets didn't do anything about it

MAGA called the Soviets bluff, at which point the Soviet position began to unravel worldwide

[Martin Hash]

The Obamacon strategy doesn't bother me.

You bother me, you fucking NeoCon.

[Smitty-48]

The Obamacon strategy doesn't bother me.

You bother me, you fucking NeoCon.

you can't have it both ways, he's just a Reagan Democrat

this is MAGA, this is what MAGA is all about

get up in the Russians kitchen and calling their bluff was job one

under MAGA in 1981, America launched the largest naval manuevers since the Second World War

the US Navy went right up to the Russian coast and challenged them to fight World War Three

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

The Obamacon strategy doesn't bother me.

You bother me, you fucking NeoCon.

Whoa, buddy - comin' in pretty hot.

[Smitty-48]

The Obamacon strategy doesn't bother me.

You bother me, you fucking NeoCon.

Whoa, buddy - comin' in pretty hot.

it comes from the delusion that Trump was somehow not a NeoCon, when of course he was

Trump's position was simply no half measures

so instead of the Obama style Velvet Revolution ambiguity

Trump preferred a Reagan style peace through strength option

for example deploying W76-2 tactical MIRV's on Trident II and ramping up the Hypersonic INF program

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

You bother me, you fucking NeoCon.

Whoa, buddy - comin' in pretty hot.

it comes from the delusion that Trump was somehow not a NeoCon, when of course he was

Trump's position was simply no half measures

so instead of the Obama style Velvet Revolution ambiguity

Trump preferred a Reagan style peace through strength option

for example deploying W76-2 tactical MIRV's on Trident II and ramping up the Hypersonic INF program

I was just a kid in the 80s, so for a long time I didn't appreciate the role American policy played in the collapse of the USSR.

Kind of figured it just collapsed under its own weight, and would have no matter what we did. Realizing that wasn't true went a long way towards making me more sympathetic to the much maligned Neocons.

[Smitty-48]

the danger of the Biden Administration is not that they are NeoCons

the danger is that they are weak, divided & incompetent

they've got the wagons circled in paranoia, and they have too many irons in the fire at once

they are not focused, they are not acting deliberately, they are letting events carry them along

and that is existentially dangerous with 13,000 thermonuclear warhead facing off at hair trigger alert

[Smitty-48]

Whoa, buddy - comin' in pretty hot.

it comes from the delusion that Trump was somehow not a NeoCon, when of course he was

Trump's position was simply no half measures

so instead of the Obama style Velvet Revolution ambiguity

Trump preferred a Reagan style peace through strength option

for example deploying W76-2 tactical MIRV's on Trident II and ramping up the Hypersonic INF program

I was just a kid in the 80s, so for a long time I didn't appreciate the role American policy played in the collapse of the USSR.

Kind of figured it just collapsed under its own weight, and would have no matter what we did. Realizing that wasn't true went a long way towards making me more sympathetic to the much maligned Neocons.

most people have forgotten 1981 by now, it's ancient history

the Carrier Battle Group going into the Barents, the Soviets shooting down KAL 007, the brink of World War Three

nobody remembers that anymore, but that was MAGA, that was the Neoconservative Reagan Democrats

in the 1970's, a huge chunk of the Democrat party flipped to the GOP, because the Democrats were Soviet appeasers

[Martin Hash]

The Obamacon strategy doesn't bother me.

You bother me, you fucking NeoCon.

you can't have it both ways, he's just a Reagan Democrat

this is MAGA, this is what MAGA is all about

get up in the Russians kitchen and calling their bluff was job one

under MAGA in 1981, America launched the largest naval manuevers since the Second World War

the US Navy went right up to the Russian coast and challenged them to fight World War Three

Reagan was incapacited by 1981 and Nancy Reagan's astrologer ran America's foreign policy. Is that the MAGA you're talking about?

[Martin Hash]

The Obamacon strategy doesn't bother me.

You bother me, you fucking NeoCon.

Whoa, buddy - comin' in pretty hot.

You can take it; you're tough.