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by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:28 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:21 pm
It’s the age of the Petroyuan and the sino-Russian alliance.
the de facto Sino - Russo Eurasian Pact is none the less only an alliance of convenience
China & Russia are also adversaries, so it is trilateral great power competition
becoming increasingly multilateral with a rising Indian nuclear power in an alliance against China with Japan
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by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:30 pm
Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:28 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:21 pm
It’s the age of the Petroyuan and the sino-Russian alliance.
the de facto Sino - Russo Eurasian Pact is none the less only an alliance of convenience
China & Russia are also adversaries, so it is trilateral great power competition
becoming increasingly multilateral with a rising Indian nuclear power in an alliance against China with Japan
There’s only one currency daring to challenge the dollar in oil. And only one military force that actually concerns Americans. And we’ve driven them together, almost as if we meant to.
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by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:36 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:30 pm
Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:28 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:21 pm
It’s the age of the Petroyuan and the sino-Russian alliance.
the de facto Sino - Russo Eurasian Pact is none the less only an alliance of convenience
China & Russia are also adversaries, so it is trilateral great power competition
becoming increasingly multilateral with a rising Indian nuclear power in an alliance against China with Japan
There’s only one currency daring to challenge the dollar in oil. And only one military force that actually concerns Americans. And we’ve driven them together, almost as if we meant to.
they none less expend a tremendous amount of resources preparing for a war against each other
China is further weakened by entering into conflict with India & Japan
unlikely China will unseat the American Hegenomy in the near term, even they don't claim that
asserting China & Russia as a monolithic threat to America is called the Domino Theory
that is what you are invoking here, the Domino Theory right out of 1954
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by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:05 pm
you also seemed to have missed that Russia & Iran are adversaries too
Russia & Iran face off against each other over the oil rich Caspian Sea
so a Sino-Persian pact is not actually friendly to Russia, that is a threat to Russia in the South Caucasus
you also seemed to have missed that China is propping Ukraine up, another obvious challenge to Moscow
Russia is also arming India while China is arming Pakistan
so Russia & China face off as adversaries by proxy in the nuclear armed Subcontinent as well
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by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:31 pm
rather than making a move against America at this juncture, China is in fact moving against Russia
to include convincing America to enter into a conflict with Russia
divide & conquer reverse Nixon strategy
China expects America to defeat Russia
then China will move in and flip Russia's proxies to China
at the same time, there is the rising Indo Pacific alliance against China, so they will have to defeat that as well
in the meantime, China needs America, China is still reliant on Chimerica, like a parasite
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by DrYouth » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:37 pm
Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:31 pm
rather than making a move against America at this juncture, China is in fact moving against Russia
to include convincing America to enter into a conflict with Russia
divide & conquer reverse Nixon strategy
China expects America to defeat Russia
then China will move in and flip Russia's proxies to China
at the same time, there is the rising Indo Pacific alliance against China, so they will have to defeat that as well
in the meantime, China needs America, China is still reliant on Chimerica, like a parasite
America is impregnable.... We have nothing to fear from the Asians.... They will never cooperate with one anther.
Canada is a stalwart ally to the North.... The Commonwealth are all fans of America... America is their Prodigal Son.
Mexico won't pose a threat anytime in the foreseeable future.
Latin America is across the Isthmus... so really can never pose a threat.
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by GloryofGreece » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:45 pm
The empire will come to its end primarily from within. This has been true of many.
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by Smitty-48 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:52 pm
the mistaken assumption in the ether seems to be that there has to be an unipolar Hegemon
that the last thirty years of America being the only Hegemon has somehow become the rule
that is another version of Fukuyama's End of History fallacy
in reality there does not have to be a single unipolar Hegenomy
America is becoming relatively less powerful, but there will simply be a multipolar world in the wake
no single hegenomy but rather multiple competing hegenomies
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by Hastur » Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:29 am
GloryofGreece wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:45 pm
The empire will come to its end primarily from within. This has been true of many.
The most important problem for all forms of life, from single cell organisms all the way up to countries and empires, is membranics. How to figure out how to let the right stuff in and how to get rid of the stuff that has to be let go. A walled city will put its most competent people at the gate. The toughest material on an animal is the skin. Empires fall because they can't keep the bad stuff out. Too many people and ideas that don't belong will try to get in and benefit from the strength of the empire.
An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna
Nie lügen die Menschen so viel wie nach einer Jagd, während eines Krieges oder vor Wahlen. - Otto von Bismarck
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by GloryofGreece » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:11 am
Hastur wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:29 am
GloryofGreece wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:45 pm
The empire will come to its end primarily from within. This has been true of many.
The most important problem for all forms of life, from single cell organisms all the way up to countries and empires, is membranics. How to figure out how to let the right stuff in and how to get rid of the stuff that has to be let go. A walled city will put its most competent people at the gate. The toughest material on an animal is the skin. Empires fall because they can't keep the bad stuff out. Too many people and ideas that don't belong will try to get in and benefit from the strength of the empire.
If you have only one bullet left save that last one for the traitor. And not just revenge but also bc you have to get rid of him for your people to have any chance of winning.
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