Tea Party was the Last Gasp

[Martin Hash]

Everybody is screaming for attention. Then the phone goes bling and their eyes glaze over, and they stare at the screen. Did someone notice me? No, just another app wanting me to notice it.

Oh! Oh! I want what you're eating.

[Martin Hash]

1. In a prior post, Gen X came after the boomers.

2. Modern Republicans have no issue with the wage gap.

I have an issue with the wage gap, but I'm not going to have the world burn around me to make everything even.

1. You're correct. Gen Y is the Millennials.
2. You mean as compared to Republicans of the past?

Back in the day, 90% tax rates (progressive; nobody paid 90%), prevented the Wage Gap from being too outlandish. However, I'm talking about the Wealth Gap, and specifically, concentrated wealth; wealth means opportunity, and concentrated wealth means hoarded opportunity. People will accept a wealth gap as long as there's lots of opportunity for them to get some of it.

[The Conservative]

1. In a prior post, Gen X came after the boomers.

2. Modern Republicans have no issue with the wage gap.

I have an issue with the wage gap, but I'm not going to have the world burn around me to make everything even.

1. You're correct. Gen Y is the Millennials.
2. You mean as compared to Republicans of the past?

Back in the day, 90% tax rates (progressive; nobody paid 90%), prevented the Wage Gap from being too outlandish. However, I'm talking about the Wealth Gap, and specifically, concentrated wealth; wealth means opportunity, and concentrated wealth means hoarded opportunity. People will accept a wealth gap as long as there's lots of opportunity for them to get some of it.

I mean the last time we had a firebrand in the WH, which back then was Reagan, where he said the government needs to get out of the way of the people so they can succeed. More government is not the answer, never has, never will be.

My issue comes in where people expect handouts for something they have not put sweat equity into. If I retired right now I'd be pulling in about 1500/mo from SS... (mid 40s) I could live very well on that out somewhere mid-west or a warmer southern state.

If I took that same money and put it in my bank's pension, I could easily double to triple that in the next 20 years.

We need to allow people the freedom to make wealth, retire wealthy, and not be penalized for it either. We also need to make it so that all avenues are open to everyone willing to take the chance to succeed.

We should not provide equal pay for those who are happy doing a 9-5, you earn what you are worth, or are willing to negotiate... you want to make more money, then take a risk. No one owes anyone anything.

[Hastur]

You’re thinking like The Patriarchy; BLM is a Communist revolution; they want all the wealth, then they’ll make everyone equal but them being the most equal.

It's not Communists vs capitalists anymore. That era is over. With those glasses most capitalists are communists now so it doesn't lead anywhere.
BLM is a network. It's all about networks now. MAGA is another network.
At the top you have the netocrats. The ones who get it the most and know how to get a network to work for them. At the bottom you have the consumetariat. They only consume the information handed to them.

We are in an attention economy. Attention is the resource that is fought over. It can't be increased. Be careful how you spend it and try to get as much of it from others that you can.

Damn, dude; is that yours? It's good, especially the zero-sum gain aspect. So often, the "raising tide lifts all boats" argument gets in the way.

Read the Alexander Bard and Jan Söderqvist books about The Netocracy Hypothesis. Start with the The Futurica Trilogy.
https://www.amazon.com/Futurica-Trilogy ... 9187173247

For understanding the Attention Economy you can go to Tristan Harris. He can explain the problem but I don't believe he has the answers on how to handle it.

[Martin Hash]

My issue comes in where people expect handouts for something they have not put sweat equity into. If I retired right now I'd be pulling in about 1500/mo from SS... (mid 40s) I could live very well on that out somewhere mid-west or a warmer southern state.

If I took that same money and put it in my bank's pension, I could easily double to triple that in the next 20 years.

We need to allow people the freedom to make wealth, retire wealthy, and not be penalized for it either. We also need to make it so that all avenues are open to everyone willing to take the chance to succeed.

We should not provide equal pay for those who are happy doing a 9-5, you earn what you are worth, or are willing to negotiate... you want to make more money, then take a risk. No one owes anyone anything.

Money is imaginary, productivity is real; you can't eat money but you can eat productivity. What you do for a living, that's productivity; you produce something, it gets traded in the marketplace for food. Imaginary money accumulating interest or dividends or appreciation, is not productive, and you did nothing productive; in fact, those gains are probably still hot off the government presses. When you retire, you expect productive people, most working Minimum Wage, to provide the wealthy lifestyle you think your hoard of imaginary money gives you. We have created an unsustainable environment of productive people working at the behest of unproductive people.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Sounds like you are talking about use-value versus exchange-value.

Sounds sort of....

Communist!

[Martin Hash]

We imagine gold has value. Turns out, because of their genetic make-up, people who live in China can shit gold. One visits the sandwich shop you own, orders a hoagie and shits in your hand as payment. He says, "Hey, this was a good sandwich; I'll be in tomorrow with my friends, and we'll all happily shit in your hand. In fact, we shit in everybody's hand. Eat that, mutterfukker."

[The Conservative]

My issue comes in where people expect handouts for something they have not put sweat equity into. If I retired right now I'd be pulling in about 1500/mo from SS... (mid 40s) I could live very well on that out somewhere mid-west or a warmer southern state.

If I took that same money and put it in my bank's pension, I could easily double to triple that in the next 20 years.

We need to allow people the freedom to make wealth, retire wealthy, and not be penalized for it either. We also need to make it so that all avenues are open to everyone willing to take the chance to succeed.

We should not provide equal pay for those who are happy doing a 9-5, you earn what you are worth, or are willing to negotiate... you want to make more money, then take a risk. No one owes anyone anything.

Money is imaginary, productivity is real; you can't eat money but you can eat productivity. What you do for a living, that's productivity; you produce something, it gets traded in the marketplace for food. Imaginary money accumulating interest or dividends or appreciation, is not productive, and you did nothing productive; in fact, those gains are probably still hot off the government presses. When you retire, you expect productive people, most working Minimum Wage, to provide the wealthy lifestyle you think your hoard of imaginary money gives you. We have created an unsustainable environment of productive people working at the behest of unproductive people.

I don't expect anything, I expect to have that SS riped away from me telling me it wasn't there, to begin with. I would rather have that money gain interest in a pension held by my bank, which is also part of the Telephone Union in my state...

It is the reason I am always trying new things, creating new things, inventing, writing books, always learning... always preparing. People on this forum back when it was the DFC crowd specifically called me nuts, trying to do things that they thought was stupid, crazy, or outright foolish. Perhaps it is/was, but you know what, I learned from those experiments and those attempts. I still got all ten fingers and toes, all my body parts work, so I call that a win on my end... but if we didn't have people willing to take chances, doing what people think are crazy things... we wouldn't have what we have today in the world.

Do I think I will be the next millionaire on this forum? No idea, but won't know if I stop trying.

I digress, if we were allowed to invest the money we have in SS elsewhere, we would be better off, but then one of the largest Ponzi schemes the world has ever seen will be blown wide open.

[Martin Hash]

I'm not arguing with your ambition; I promote The Patriarchy more than most people; I was simply using the opportunity to expound on my pet theory that money is imaginary. Writing crystalizes my thoughts.

You keep trying to become a millionaire; even if you fail halfway there, it ain't bad.

[The Conservative]

I'm not arguing with your ambition; I promote The Patriarchy more than most people; I was simply using the opportunity to expound on my pet theory that money is imaginary. Writing crystalizes my thoughts.

You keep trying to become a millionaire; even if you fail halfway there, it ain't bad.

Writing does mine too, I keep a notebook near me at all times, just in case.

As for the rest, your response allowed me to vent a little Sorry that you happen to be on the other end of it.