Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I'm sorry that it annoys you, but I'm still not sure that I'm defending him in any way. I find his writing especially poignant in our current social climate, but that's where my endorsement begins and ends. There is a disconnect between what he's writing and his actions, I agree.

I don't think agreeing with a person's idea means that you 100% endorse that person as though they were the Messiah. I'm not saying he needs to be let out of prison or anything like that. Your outrage confuses me.

Well, we agree Ted is insane, and his actions are insane, but for some reason you want to argue that the insanity stopped at the door of his shed where he hammered out his totally rational manifesto.

Seems unlikely. It is more likely that there is no 'disconnect' between the man and his writings, and that insane people produce insane ramblings.

But, if you like his ideas, you are welcome to them.

Cool. If I find some abhorrent stuff on repeated readings, I'll make sure to publicly disavow.

Abhorrent? No need for that. Incoherent is more apt.

If you don't already find it incoherent to ramble on and on about how the 'left hates science' while simultaneously rambling on and on about how evil technology and industry are, then repeat readings probably won't do much for you.

But, again, insane people have reliably incoherent worldviews. Who knew?

[The Conservative]

Well, we agree Ted is insane, and his actions are insane, but for some reason you want to argue that the insanity stopped at the door of his shed where he hammered out his totally rational manifesto.

Seems unlikely. It is more likely that there is no 'disconnect' between the man and his writings, and that insane people produce insane ramblings.

But, if you like his ideas, you are welcome to them.

Cool. If I find some abhorrent stuff on repeated readings, I'll make sure to publicly disavow.

Abhorrent? No need for that. Incoherent is more apt.

If you don't already find it incoherent to ramble on and on about how the 'left hates science' while simultaneously rambling on and on about how evil technology and industry are, then repeat readings probably won't do much for you.

But, again, insane people have reliably incoherent worldviews. Who knew?

Did you actually read anything he wrote? Because he seemed pretty sound in his logic. Again, how he went along things was wrong, but I think that was part of the plan, he wrote this to be dissected after he died to see what made him tick...

That didn't go as planned, so he is just considered a loon that wrote things... as you are proving here.

[HarryK]

Well, we agree Ted is insane, and his actions are insane, but for some reason you want to argue that the insanity stopped at the door of his shed where he hammered out his totally rational manifesto.

Seems unlikely. It is more likely that there is no 'disconnect' between the man and his writings, and that insane people produce insane ramblings.

But, if you like his ideas, you are welcome to them.

Cool. If I find some abhorrent stuff on repeated readings, I'll make sure to publicly disavow.

Abhorrent? No need for that. Incoherent is more apt.

If you don't already find it incoherent to ramble on and on about how the 'left hates science' while simultaneously rambling on and on about how evil technology and industry are, then repeat readings probably won't do much for you.

But, again, insane people have reliably incoherent worldviews. Who knew?

What were people doing the day before the incident in Minneapolis? It certainly wasn’t legislation to prevent state sanctioned murder under the guise of better police enforcement, nor eliminating the tactics the officer used.

As for the subsequent riots, I certainly didn’t feel safe living a block and a half away from the Capitol. Luckily they didn’t destroy the bar above my apartment.

Protesting is a waste of time, money and resources. Which in turn escalates the military tactics police will use on everyone.

I certainly didn’t ask for tear gas to ruin my apartment and quality of life as a citizen of NY.

[Xenophon]

Well, we agree Ted is insane, and his actions are insane, but for some reason you want to argue that the insanity stopped at the door of his shed where he hammered out his totally rational manifesto.

Seems unlikely. It is more likely that there is no 'disconnect' between the man and his writings, and that insane people produce insane ramblings.

But, if you like his ideas, you are welcome to them.

Cool. If I find some abhorrent stuff on repeated readings, I'll make sure to publicly disavow.

Abhorrent? No need for that. Incoherent is more apt.

If you don't already find it incoherent to ramble on and on about how the 'left hates science' while simultaneously rambling on and on about how evil technology and industry are, then repeat readings probably won't do much for you.

But, again, insane people have reliably incoherent worldviews. Who knew?

Consider me chastened. Please, put down the belt, daddy. I promise I'll be good! I love snapstagrams and facebag! I promise!

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I was just hoping that the people who are supposed to champion reason, science, and objectivity would be able to recognize their own post hoc rationalizations and motivated reasoning.

[The Conservative]

I was just hoping that the people who are supposed to champion reason, science, and objectivity would be able to recognize their own post hoc rationalizations and motivated reasoning.

Then amuse us if you are ever so enlightened to do so.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Prop 1: I don't like leftists and think they are wrong

Prop 2: Professor Ted doesn't like leftists and thinks they are wrong

Ergo: Ted must have coherent ideas.

Post hoc rationalization in the service of motivated reasoning.

[The Conservative]

Prop 1: I don't like leftists and think they are wrong

Prop 2: Professor Ted doesn't like leftists and thinks they are wrong

Ergo: Ted must have coherent ideas.

Post hoc rationalization in the service of motivated reasoning.

You didn't read far down enough, keep going... you might be enlightened just a bit.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Don't have to read down very far to find:

We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system. This revolution may or may not make use of violence; it may be sudden or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We can’t predict any of that. But we do outline in a very general way the measures that those who hate the industrial system should take in order to prepare the way for a revolution against that form of society. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis of the present society.

Sounds like it could be directly from an Antifa pamphlet about destroying systems.

Further down:

Oversocialization can lead to low self-esteem, a sense of powerlessness, defeatism, guilt, etc. One of the most important means by which our society socializes children is by making them feel ashamed of behavior or speech that is contrary to society’s expectations. If this is overdone, or if a particular child is especially susceptible to such feelings, he ends by feeling ashamed of HIMSELF.

This is exactly what anti-racist academics like DiAngelo and Kendi say about 'stereotype threat' and 'internalized racism.'

But, the very first sentence is:

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Another Antifa, radical-left talking point, presented without evidence. Nothing that follows in Ted's manifesto supports this proposition, but instead rambles on for pages about the psychology of leftists - never providing a single piece of empirical data that humans are worse off now than they were before the industrial revolution. Why? Because every single piece of objective data proves him wrong.

Kaczynski's entire manifesto is one long gripe trying to justify his own inability to succeed, blaming society for everything, like a progressive, BLM agitator.

[Xenophon]

Another Antifa, radical-left talking point, presented without evidence. Nothing that follows in Ted's manifesto supports this proposition, but instead rambles on for pages about the psychology of leftists - never providing a single piece of empirical data that humans are worse off now than they were before the industrial revolution. Why? Because every single piece of objective data proves him wrong.

Kaczynski's entire manifesto is one long gripe trying to justify his own inability to succeed, blaming society for everything, like a progressive, BLM agitator.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... us-unhappy

Young Americans today are experiencing levels of stress, anxiety, depression, and related conditions at rates higher than they were a generation ago. (And the rest of us aren't doing much better.)

According to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1 in 10 Americans suffer from some form of depression, and people between the ages of 18 and 24 report the highest incidences.1,2 Forty million Americans over the age of 18 have an anxiety disorder, but again, as the recent report, "Stress in America," made clear, millennials are the hardest hit.3 More evidence: Suicide is the third-leading cause of death for young Americans between the ages of 10 and 24, claiming 4,600 lives per year. All of this, in a society that has more wealth than much of the rest of the world combined.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 091249.htm

Twenge, along with colleagues Gabrielle Martin at SDSU and W. Keith Campbell at the University of Georgia, crunched data from the Monitoring the Future (MtF) longitudinal study, a nationally representative survey of more than a million U.S. 8th-, 10th-, and 12th-graders. The survey asked students questions about how often they spent time on their phones, tablets and computers, as well as questions about their in-the-flesh social interactions and their overall happiness.

On average, they found that teens who spent more time in front of screen devices -- playing computer games, using social media, texting and video chatting -- were less happy than those who invested more time in non-screen activities like sports, reading newspapers and magazines, and face-to-face social interaction.

https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2019/t ... tal-media/



Yep. Industrial society is great, man. Time to flip on the ol' Netflix and gorge. Carpe diem, am I right?