2020 General Election Predictions

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Martin Hash
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Re: 2020 General Election Predictions

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:44 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:29 am
I’m being serious - is there a legitimate argument Trump has been racist in Office?
I don’t understand why you let yourself get worked up about lying liars?
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Re: 2020 General Election Predictions

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:49 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:44 am
Zlaxer wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:29 am
I’m being serious - is there a legitimate argument Trump has been racist in Office?
I don’t understand why you let yourself get worked up about lying liars?

Bc it seems like everyone I know thinks Donald is racist, that whites are inherently racist. How is it so many people believe this - there has to be a modicum of truth - otherwise the whole world really has gone nutz - like twilight zone nutz.

Or maybe I’m the one whose nutz and just don’t see it yet.

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Re: 2020 General Election Predictions

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:11 am

How many times have I said:

PROPAGANDA WORKS
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Re: 2020 General Election Predictions

Post by pineapplemike » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:26 am

maybe i'm misremembering but trump saying the hispanic judge couldnt be objective was fucked up. inform me on that one

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Re: 2020 General Election Predictions

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:46 am

pineapplemike wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:26 am
maybe i'm misremembering but trump saying the hispanic judge couldnt be objective was fucked up. inform me on that one

OK - that is a fair point, a little bit of a stretch but better than what other people have told me -the statement doesn’t scream racism to me - he’s inferring the judge is racist. Not saying it was a nice. But where is the “I’m going to fuck over minorities” in that statement?

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Re: 2020 General Election Predictions

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:55 am

pineapplemike wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:26 am
maybe i'm misremembering but trump saying the hispanic judge couldnt be objective was fucked up. inform me on that one
I suppose the real question is: to what extent do you believe Trump has embraced a version of identity politics? The issue with the Hispanic judge makes perfect sense by the lights of left identity politics - it is uncontroversial to them that your race can morally compromise your decision making.

For most on this board, identitarian thinking like that is seen as obviously bigoted and prejudicial, but for a leftist, it isn't strictly 'racist' in the newer, academic sense unless it comes from white people. Which is fine by me, I can adapt to using the term bigot to describe the sort of racial animosity that I used to use the term racist for.
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Re: 2020 General Election Predictions

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:57 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:55 am
pineapplemike wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:26 am
maybe i'm misremembering but trump saying the hispanic judge couldnt be objective was fucked up. inform me on that one
I suppose the real question is: to what extent do you believe Trump has embraced a version of identity politics? The issue with the Hispanic judge makes perfect sense by the lights of left identity politics - it is uncontroversial to them that your race can morally compromise your decision making.

For most on this board, identitarian thinking like that is seen as obviously bigoted and prejudicial, but for a leftist, it isn't strictly 'racist' in the newer, academic sense unless it comes from white people. Which is fine by me, I can adapt to using the term bigot to describe the sort of racial animosity that I used to use the term racist for.
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Re: 2020 General Election Predictions

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:11 am

Hanarchy is good a speaking new languages: he has English & cuck down perfectly. How about some NewSpeak, Hanny? Give us some of that.
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Re: 2020 General Election Predictions

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:25 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:11 am
Hanarchy is good a speaking new languages: he has English & cuck down perfectly. How about some NewSpeak, Hanny? Give us some of that.
People always misunderstand the danger of the Ingsoc attack on language. They reduced the number of words in order to control what people were capable of thinking. Adding specificity to words, or inventing new words does not carry the same risk. If people want to add layers of specificity to the word racist, I am fine with that as long as I still have a language to describe what 'racist' used to mean, and I do.
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Re: 2020 General Election Predictions

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:40 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:25 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:11 am
Hanarchy is good a speaking new languages: he has English & cuck down perfectly. How about some NewSpeak, Hanny? Give us some of that.
People always misunderstand the danger of the Ingsoc attack on language. They reduced the number of words in order to control what people were capable of thinking. Adding specificity to words, or inventing new words does not carry the same risk. If people want to add layers of specificity to the word racist, I am fine with that as long as I still have a language to describe what 'racist' used to mean, and I do.
You must be able to identify your problems & your enemies succinctly. Torturing the language & redefining words is an Oral Illusion; i.e. liberty is a synonym for freedom and we have freedom so what are you going on about? Only White people can be racist so you’ll need a couple seconds to carefully describe what black people who do the same thing are called. All previously written books, plays, movies, etc. that use the word “racist” are henceforth only talking about white people. Black people have no word for their actions so they must not be doing them.

You are such a cuck.
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