What Role Should Cops Have In America?

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Re: What Role Should Cops Have In America?

Post by heydaralon » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:41 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:02 pm
Raise the pay and the standards. Quiz them on the constitution.

From a legal perspective, they should have no rights beyond ordinary citizens, except to make an arrest. They should have to defend every takedown in court.
Raise their pay? Loooooool. Cops make bank and have pensions. Some of them make 6 figures.

Its a cake job.
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Re: What Role Should Cops Have In America?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:47 am

heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:41 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:02 pm
Raise the pay and the standards. Quiz them on the constitution.

From a legal perspective, they should have no rights beyond ordinary citizens, except to make an arrest. They should have to defend every takedown in court.
Raise their pay? Loooooool. Cops make bank and have pensions. Some of them make 6 figures.

Its a cake job.
Just like everything, it's a pyramid. The guys at desks are making bank. Starting pay for a trooper is something like 45k.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: What Role Should Cops Have In America?

Post by heydaralon » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:53 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:47 am
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:41 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:02 pm
Raise the pay and the standards. Quiz them on the constitution.

From a legal perspective, they should have no rights beyond ordinary citizens, except to make an arrest. They should have to defend every takedown in court.
Raise their pay? Loooooool. Cops make bank and have pensions. Some of them make 6 figures.

Its a cake job.
Just like everything, it's a pyramid. The guys at desks are making bank. Starting pay for a trooper is something like 45k.

45k is a lot of fucking money lol. Cops get OT out the ass, and they bankrupt cities with their pensions.

If your standard is lock someone in a cage for weed and to sit around hiding in a speed trap, then you can't raise that btw. That's like trying to raise the standards of the Gestapo lol. The Anne Frank family arrest could have been handled better. In the future we will teach our men to be more careful with Jewish prisoners
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Re: What Role Should Cops Have In America?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:58 am

heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:53 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:47 am
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:41 am


Raise their pay? Loooooool. Cops make bank and have pensions. Some of them make 6 figures.

Its a cake job.
Just like everything, it's a pyramid. The guys at desks are making bank. Starting pay for a trooper is something like 45k.

45k is a lot of fucking money lol. Cops get OT out the ass, and they bankrupt cities with their pensions.

If your standard is lock someone in a cage for weed and to sit around hiding in a speed trap, then you can't raise that btw. That's like trying to raise the standards of the Gestapo lol. The Anne Frank family arrest could have been handled better. In the future we will teach our men to be more careful with Jewish prisoners
I forgot you live in Florida. :)
In a state with a functioning economy, it's the rate for mid-level labor. Not enough for anyone to risk their life, or pursue it as a career.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: What Role Should Cops Have In America?

Post by heydaralon » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:06 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:58 am
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:53 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:47 am


Just like everything, it's a pyramid. The guys at desks are making bank. Starting pay for a trooper is something like 45k.

45k is a lot of fucking money lol. Cops get OT out the ass, and they bankrupt cities with their pensions.

If your standard is lock someone in a cage for weed and to sit around hiding in a speed trap, then you can't raise that btw. That's like trying to raise the standards of the Gestapo lol. The Anne Frank family arrest could have been handled better. In the future we will teach our men to be more careful with Jewish prisoners
I forgot you live in Florida. :)
In a state with a functioning economy, it's the rate for mid-level labor. Not enough for anyone to risk their life, or pursue it as a career.
Florida has a very high crime rate, and it is a very very rare occurance for cops to die. There are many many occupations more dangerous than being a cop that make less. Soldiers also make shit, and in many cases their rules of engagement are actually more strict than cops are. Think about that for a second. Our armies in occupied enemy territory have more constraints on their behavior than police officers interacting with taxpayers who give them their salary.

When cops even think they are in danger, they will simply outnumber and kill the threat lol. They also do this when they are not in danger.

I know television likes to portray cops as being in these crazy gunfights every episode, but their reality is far more banal.
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Re: What Role Should Cops Have In America?

Post by The Conservative » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:10 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:47 am
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:41 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:02 pm
Raise the pay and the standards. Quiz them on the constitution.

From a legal perspective, they should have no rights beyond ordinary citizens, except to make an arrest. They should have to defend every takedown in court.
Raise their pay? Loooooool. Cops make bank and have pensions. Some of them make 6 figures.

Its a cake job.
Just like everything, it's a pyramid. The guys at desks are making bank. Starting pay for a trooper is something like 45k.
You are funny... Mass it's 75K. It's only 35K to 45K if you are where the income level is low, and even then that is basically making bank.
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Re: What Role Should Cops Have In America?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:06 am

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:10 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:47 am
heydaralon wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:41 am


Raise their pay? Loooooool. Cops make bank and have pensions. Some of them make 6 figures.

Its a cake job.
Just like everything, it's a pyramid. The guys at desks are making bank. Starting pay for a trooper is something like 45k.
You are funny... Mass it's 75K. It's only 35K to 45K if you are where the income level is low, and even then that is basically making bank.
You can take it up with Google, I guess. Average starting is 45k.
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Re: What Role Should Cops Have In America?

Post by The Conservative » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:06 am
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:10 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:47 am


Just like everything, it's a pyramid. The guys at desks are making bank. Starting pay for a trooper is something like 45k.
You are funny... Mass it's 75K. It's only 35K to 45K if you are where the income level is low, and even then that is basically making bank.
You can take it up with Google, I guess. Average starting is 45k.
Again, you are talking national average. Not average regional.
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Re: What Role Should Cops Have In America?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:55 am

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:06 am
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:10 am


You are funny... Mass it's 75K. It's only 35K to 45K if you are where the income level is low, and even then that is basically making bank.
You can take it up with Google, I guess. Average starting is 45k.
Again, you are talking national average. Not average regional.
national average working salary is 60k+.

I know I have to let you get there on your own, but I'm getting impatient.
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Re: What Role Should Cops Have In America?

Post by heydaralon » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:08 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:55 am
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:34 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:06 am


You can take it up with Google, I guess. Average starting is 45k.
Again, you are talking national average. Not average regional.
national average working salary is 60k+.

I know I have to let you get there on your own, but I'm getting impatient.
You act like less cops is a bad thing. If the pay decreases, then less people will want to be cops. To me, that is great. Maybe then they will have to decide whether it is worth their time to set up speed traps and do weed busts. Or they will have to get rid of some of their ex military toys. Fuck em.
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