Without parsing every part of that timeline, I agree. He was following the lead of experts.C-Mag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:10 pmHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:39 pmI remember reading the news in late January or early February when even the dicey info coming out of China at the time showed that the elderly and people with otherwise compromised health were suffering dire complications, while most infected weren't suffering enough to consider calling in sick to work.
These details haven't seemed to have changed all that much. I am confident that the White House was making a reasonable calculation about issuing overly restrictive federal guidelines since at least early March, but instead of clearly communicating this, we just got a bunch of self aggrandizing.
Jan. 14 The WHO said no proof of human to human transmission
Jan 20 first case in US.
CDC develops a test that will later be found faulty.
Jan 24 Senate is briefed
Jan 27 WHO says risk is high
Jan 29 Trump forms task force
Travel suspended to China
68 total cases outside China, 3 in US
Jan 31 Trump admin calls it a public health Emergency.
Feb 3 CDC said we need tests for local use rather than all going through Atlanta
Feb 6 CDC sends their tests to state labs and find they are faulty.
Other tests are available, but the FDA will not approve
March 11 WHO declares pandemic
CDC warns people NOT to wear masks
Apr 3 CDC does a 180 and says you should wear a mask.
To me it appears Trump was following the lead of the Experts in Science.
I don't like Trump
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Hmm, yes, quite. *swirls cognac*
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The CDC straight up lied to the country for over 2 months on masksXenophon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:15 pmBut he wasn't watching the YouTube video I was REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!C-Mag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:10 pmHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:39 pm
I remember reading the news in late January or early February when even the dicey info coming out of China at the time showed that the elderly and people with otherwise compromised health were suffering dire complications, while most infected weren't suffering enough to consider calling in sick to work.
These details haven't seemed to have changed all that much. I am confident that the White House was making a reasonable calculation about issuing overly restrictive federal guidelines since at least early March, but instead of clearly communicating this, we just got a bunch of self aggrandizing.
Jan. 14 The WHO said no proof of human to human transmission
Jan 20 first case in US.
CDC develops a test that will later be found faulty.
Jan 24 Senate is briefed
Jan 27 WHO says risk is high
Jan 29 Trump forms task force
Travel suspended to China
68 total cases outside China, 3 in US
Jan 31 Trump admin calls it a public health Emergency.
Feb 3 CDC said we need tests for local use rather than all going through Atlanta
Feb 6 CDC sends their tests to state labs and find they are faulty.
Other tests are available, but the FDA will not approve
March 11 WHO declares pandemic
CDC warns people NOT to wear masks
Apr 3 CDC does a 180 and says you should wear a mask.
To me it appears Trump was following the lead of the Experts in Science.
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Imagine telling the truth about something. It's 2020, dude. Orange man bad.C-Mag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:17 pmThe CDC straight up lied to the country for over 2 months on masksXenophon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:15 pmBut he wasn't watching the YouTube video I was REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!C-Mag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:10 pm
Jan. 14 The WHO said no proof of human to human transmission
Jan 20 first case in US.
CDC develops a test that will later be found faulty.
Jan 24 Senate is briefed
Jan 27 WHO says risk is high
Jan 29 Trump forms task force
Travel suspended to China
68 total cases outside China, 3 in US
Jan 31 Trump admin calls it a public health Emergency.
Feb 3 CDC said we need tests for local use rather than all going through Atlanta
Feb 6 CDC sends their tests to state labs and find they are faulty.
Other tests are available, but the FDA will not approve
March 11 WHO declares pandemic
CDC warns people NOT to wear masks
Apr 3 CDC does a 180 and says you should wear a mask.
To me it appears Trump was following the lead of the Experts in Science.
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YeahHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:39 pm
Without parsing every part of that timeline, I agree. He was following the lead of experts.
Maybe he shouldn't have and that's where he's wrong.
But remember, Trump just went through impeachment for not following the Experts 100 %
WTF would you do
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The CDC said cloth masks were not effective at stopping the wearer from contracting the disease, because you are going to catch it from touching a surface with the virus, and then touching yourself, or through direct contact. This is true.C-Mag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:17 pmThe CDC straight up lied to the country for over 2 months on masksXenophon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:15 pmBut he wasn't watching the YouTube video I was REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!C-Mag wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:10 pm
Jan. 14 The WHO said no proof of human to human transmission
Jan 20 first case in US.
CDC develops a test that will later be found faulty.
Jan 24 Senate is briefed
Jan 27 WHO says risk is high
Jan 29 Trump forms task force
Travel suspended to China
68 total cases outside China, 3 in US
Jan 31 Trump admin calls it a public health Emergency.
Feb 3 CDC said we need tests for local use rather than all going through Atlanta
Feb 6 CDC sends their tests to state labs and find they are faulty.
Other tests are available, but the FDA will not approve
March 11 WHO declares pandemic
CDC warns people NOT to wear masks
Apr 3 CDC does a 180 and says you should wear a mask.
To me it appears Trump was following the lead of the Experts in Science.
The recommendation not to wear them was to keep them available for hospital staff that need them to keep from getting spit and drool all over the place because they need to work in a sterile environment.
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YeahHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:39 pm
Without parsing every part of that timeline, I agree. He was following the lead of experts.
Maybe he shouldn't have and that's where he's wrong.
But remember, Trump just went through impeachment for not following the Experts 100 %
WTF would you do
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I would have done much the same as Trump, but spent more time trying to clearly explain the dangers and benefits of my recommendations, instead of trying to pat myself on the back.
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Yes, Trump is treated unfairly. My point was that even his supporters have been 'not taking him literally' for a long time, and that is not going to work anymore.Martin Hash wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:08 pmDude, stop. I already proved the lie of the Lysol hoax. Hoaxing the president relentlessly then complaining he has no credibility is disingenuous. Bush Jr. was stupider and did measurable damage to the world but he’s wasn’t hoaxed.
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I don't think that people have been saying, "Don't take him literally" in that they're saying nothing he says can be taken literally. It's just that Trump could say, "It's raining cats and dogs," and the media would say, "TRUMP WANTS YOUR PETS TO FALL OUT OF THE SKY AND DIE."Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:25 pmYes, Trump is treated unfairly. My point was that even his supporters have been 'not taking him literally' for a long time, and that is not going to work anymore.Martin Hash wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:08 pmDude, stop. I already proved the lie of the Lysol hoax. Hoaxing the president relentlessly then complaining he has no credibility is disingenuous. Bush Jr. was stupider and did measurable damage to the world but he’s wasn’t hoaxed.