Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:54 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:52 am
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Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:32 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:26 am


Dude, take a gander at places like Italy. Once you let it rampage through your population, you are getting Black Death numbers you fucking loon. The economy is fucking dead no matter what. Sacrificing millions of people isn't going to change that reality.
So do like Italy does even though they fucked up the most aside from China.

Great plan, Bob. What could possibly go wrong with emulating the biggest fuck ups instead of the smallest fuck ups?
SK was the first to stop travelers from China and apply local quarantines, lockdowns and social distancing. The reason they haven't had to use draconian measures is that they have a population prepared to listen to advice and do what they are told.
It's not even that they are a more docile populous, it's because they were hit hard by SARS 1 and remembered the lessons learned. More geography than social differences.
They were also better prepared in terms of equipment which has helped contain and track the spread.
All achieved through central planning.
There's little difference between Italy and the rest of Europe or even the US in terms of procedures, healthcare standards or preparation. They just suffered because they had less time to prepare.
South Korea is the model to emulate, not Italy, not China. Those who suggest otherwise are SIFCLFs who think government is the solution to all problems they have no idea how to actually solve. South Korea didn't do the best because the populace listened to them, they did the best because their government did the least damage with their recommendations and regulations, doing more damage would have made the situation in South Korea worse, not better.

This assumption that the bigger and more draconian the government crackdown, the more lives are saved in the long run, is for pro-big government simpletons who think the most counter-productive solutions are actually the most effective.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by C-Mag » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:58 am

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Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:27 am

I give as much of a fuck about NYC as they give about my region.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:59 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:54 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:52 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:32 am
So do like Italy does even though they fucked up the most aside from China.

Great plan, Bob. What could possibly go wrong with emulating the biggest fuck ups instead of the smallest fuck ups?
SK was the first to stop travelers from China and apply local quarantines, lockdowns and social distancing. The reason they haven't had to use draconian measures is that they have a population prepared to listen to advice and do what they are told.
It's not even that they are a more docile populous, it's because they were hit hard by SARS 1 and remembered the lessons learned. More geography than social differences.
They were also better prepared in terms of equipment which has helped contain and track the spread.
All achieved through central planning.
There's little difference between Italy and the rest of Europe or even the US in terms of procedures, healthcare standards or preparation. They just suffered because they had less time to prepare.
South Korea is the model to emulate, not Italy, not China. Those who suggest otherwise are SIFCLFs who think government is the solution to all problems they have no idea how to actually solve. South Korea didn't do the best because the populace listened to them, they did the best because their government did the least damage with their recommendations and regulations, doing more damage would have made the situation in South Korea worse, not better.

This assumption that the bigger and more draconian the government crackdown, the more lives are saved in the long run, is for pro-big government simpletons who think the most counter-productive solutions are actually the most effective.
But you advocated doing what led to Italy's horrific death rate. What a fucking moron.

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:00 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:59 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:54 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:52 am


SK was the first to stop travelers from China and apply local quarantines, lockdowns and social distancing. The reason they haven't had to use draconian measures is that they have a population prepared to listen to advice and do what they are told.
It's not even that they are a more docile populous, it's because they were hit hard by SARS 1 and remembered the lessons learned. More geography than social differences.
They were also better prepared in terms of equipment which has helped contain and track the spread.
All achieved through central planning.
There's little difference between Italy and the rest of Europe or even the US in terms of procedures, healthcare standards or preparation. They just suffered because they had less time to prepare.
South Korea is the model to emulate, not Italy, not China. Those who suggest otherwise are SIFCLFs who think government is the solution to all problems they have no idea how to actually solve. South Korea didn't do the best because the populace listened to them, they did the best because their government did the least damage with their recommendations and regulations, doing more damage would have made the situation in South Korea worse, not better.

This assumption that the bigger and more draconian the government crackdown, the more lives are saved in the long run, is for pro-big government simpletons who think the most counter-productive solutions are actually the most effective.
But you advocated doing what led to Italy's horrific death rate. What a fucking moron.
More people will die following Italy's strategy than following South Korea's strategy, on top of the economic damage done by doing the former as opposed to the latter. You're the moron.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:01 pm

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Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:50 am
Italy merely kicked the can down the road, it didn't stop the death it delayed them, all while they still ate a ton of deaths in the short run and destroyed the economy on top of it. Literally the worst of all worlds except those Chicom Biolab Chernobyl Faggots, who managed to fuck up even worse. Yet these are the models you want to emulate, because you're knee jerk pro-government SIFCLF.
You can kick the can down the road until you get a vaccine. Are you really so fucking dumb?

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:01 pm

StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:00 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:59 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:54 am
South Korea is the model to emulate, not Italy, not China. Those who suggest otherwise are SIFCLFs who think government is the solution to all problems they have no idea how to actually solve. South Korea didn't do the best because the populace listened to them, they did the best because their government did the least damage with their recommendations and regulations, doing more damage would have made the situation in South Korea worse, not better.

This assumption that the bigger and more draconian the government crackdown, the more lives are saved in the long run, is for pro-big government simpletons who think the most counter-productive solutions are actually the most effective.
But you advocated doing what led to Italy's horrific death rate. What a fucking moron.
More people will die following Italy's strategy than following South Korea's strategy. You're the moron.
THEN WHY DID YOU ADVOCATE IT???

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by C-Mag » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:01 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:52 am

SK was the first to stop travelers from China and apply local quarantines, lockdowns and social distancing. The reason they haven't had to use draconian measures is that they have a population prepared to listen to advice and do what they are told.
The bulk of the US listened to the advice of 'Experts' too.
The first week of March the CDC told us don't where masks, they don't help.

Now, this week, they say where a mask, it will help.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:02 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:01 pm
StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:50 am
Italy merely kicked the can down the road, it didn't stop the death it delayed them, all while they still ate a ton of deaths in the short run and destroyed the economy on top of it. Literally the worst of all worlds except those Chicom Biolab Chernobyl Faggots, who managed to fuck up even worse. Yet these are the models you want to emulate, because you're knee jerk pro-government SIFCLF.
You can kick the can down the road until you get a vaccine. Are you really so fucking dumb?
No you can't, because the economic damage will vastly outstrip the damage done by the virus, if you lock everything down until a vaccine appears. That is by far the stupidest strategy yet proposed, aside from Chicom Biolab Chernobyl Faggots, and even they aren't dumb enough to do that, only you are.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:02 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:01 pm
StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:00 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:59 am


But you advocated doing what led to Italy's horrific death rate. What a fucking moron.
More people will die following Italy's strategy than following South Korea's strategy. You're the moron.
THEN WHY DID YOU ADVOCATE IT???
I didn't. I advocated for South Korea's strategy, you're just a moron who can't fucking read.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:07 pm

StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:54 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:52 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:32 am
So do like Italy does even though they fucked up the most aside from China.

Great plan, Bob. What could possibly go wrong with emulating the biggest fuck ups instead of the smallest fuck ups?
SK was the first to stop travelers from China and apply local quarantines, lockdowns and social distancing. The reason they haven't had to use draconian measures is that they have a population prepared to listen to advice and do what they are told.
It's not even that they are a more docile populous, it's because they were hit hard by SARS 1 and remembered the lessons learned. More geography than social differences.
They were also better prepared in terms of equipment which has helped contain and track the spread.
All achieved through central planning.
There's little difference between Italy and the rest of Europe or even the US in terms of procedures, healthcare standards or preparation. They just suffered because they had less time to prepare.
South Korea is the model to emulate, not Italy, not China. Those who suggest otherwise are SIFCLFs who think government is the solution to all problems they have no idea how to actually solve. South Korea didn't do the best because the populace listened to them, they did the best because their government did the least damage with their recommendations and regulations, doing more damage would have made the situation in South Korea worse, not better.

This assumption that the bigger and more draconian the government crackdown, the more lives are saved in the long run, is for pro-big government simpletons.
You are so obtuse it makes talking to you really difficult at times.
SK were able to respond the way they did because they had the testing kits and processing capacity to track and contain the virus. With the possible exception of Germany no one else could follow their example because they simply didn't have the testing capacity.
Your whole ''we should follow SK's example'' argument falls flat on its face once you accept that information.
SK didn't have a different strategy, they just executed it better than everyone else.
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