An apology

User avatar
SuburbanFarmer
Posts: 25230
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:50 am
Location: Ohio

Re: An apology

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:19 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:16 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:13 pm


From a brief glance at it, it looks like India is fighting to hang onto Kashmir, which is more ethnically Paki, and doesn’t want to be Indian... seems like a stupid hill to die on.
The fault line is asymmetrical

India over matches Pakistan, Pakistan is David, India is Goliath

If Pakistan ends up backs against the wall, they are going to have to ramp up way more than India to compensate

This would set India off, which would set China off, and so on and so forth
I guess... obviously war never makes sense, but this is a BIG stretch for a casus belli
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

Formerly GrumpyCatFace

https://youtu.be/CYbT8-rSqo0

Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: An apology

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:22 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:19 pm


I guess... obviously war never makes sense, but this is a BIG stretch for a casus belli
Thermonuclear war won't start by casus belli

It will start by misapprehension, miscalculation and/or plain old mistake
Nec Aspera Terrent

Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: An apology

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:30 pm

Again, not Cold War One

America came 2 minutes 12 seconds away from a launch on false warning in 1979

Stan Petrov was so scared of what Oko was telling him on 26 September 1983, he didn't even alert the Kremlin

That's the top of the line early warning

India, Pakistan & North Korea are nowhere near as good at this shit as America & Russia are

If America & Russia can come so close to shitting the bed, India & Pakistan could do it easily
Nec Aspera Terrent

Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: An apology

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:41 pm

And remember, the moment the fur flies, it would be exponentially compounding

If you think panic and chaos is being spread by Covfefe?

Imagine what it would be like if a nuke went off somewhere

This is what I call the Vortex, to the Event Horizon
Nec Aspera Terrent

User avatar
SuburbanFarmer
Posts: 25230
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:50 am
Location: Ohio

Re: An apology

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:56 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:41 pm
And remember, the moment the fur flies, it would be exponentially compounding

If you think panic and chaos is being spread by Covfefe?

Imagine what it would be like if a nuke went off somewhere

This is what I call the Vortex, to the Event Horizon
I guess the hope is that the pakis set one off, and everyone else freezes in place for a bit.

I know humans are stupid, but an extinction-level event based on nothing? That’s just... human I guess.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

Formerly GrumpyCatFace

https://youtu.be/CYbT8-rSqo0

Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: An apology

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:06 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:56 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:41 pm
And remember, the moment the fur flies, it would be exponentially compounding

If you think panic and chaos is being spread by Covfefe?

Imagine what it would be like if a nuke went off somewhere

This is what I call the Vortex, to the Event Horizon
I guess the hope is that the pakis set one off, and everyone else freezes in place for a bit.

I know humans are stupid, but an extinction-level event based on nothing? That’s just... human I guess.
I'm a Cold Warrior, student of Herman Kahn

Control is a delusion, nuclear deterrents have a logic & and a life all unto themselves

In order to make the deterrents credible, human control must be reduced

To convince the other guy you are serious, that you couldn't even stop it if it started rolling

Now Russia & America are not at that level of escalation right now, but India & Pakistan are

They're not at the same place we are, they are still gung-ho for nuclear war, like it's 1965

757 cases of Covfefe in Pakistan, and you know there's gonna be community spread

This blast wave is just arriving in Pakistan, which by the way, has a totally dysfunctional healthcare system
Nec Aspera Terrent

User avatar
SuburbanFarmer
Posts: 25230
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:50 am
Location: Ohio

Re: An apology

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:10 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:06 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:56 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:41 pm
And remember, the moment the fur flies, it would be exponentially compounding

If you think panic and chaos is being spread by Covfefe?

Imagine what it would be like if a nuke went off somewhere

This is what I call the Vortex, to the Event Horizon
I guess the hope is that the pakis set one off, and everyone else freezes in place for a bit.

I know humans are stupid, but an extinction-level event based on nothing? That’s just... human I guess.
I'm a Cold Warrior, student of Herman Kahn

Control is a delusion, nuclear deterrents have a logic & and a life all unto themselves

In order to make the deterrents credible, human control must be reduced

To convince the other guy you are serious, that you couldn't even stop it if it started rolling

Now Russia & America are not at that level of escalation right now, but India & Pakistan are

They're not at the same place we are, they are still gung-ho for nuclear war, like it's 1965

757 cases of Covfefe in Pakistan, and you know there's gonna be community spread

This blast wave is just arriving in Pakistan, which by the way, has a totally dysfunctional healthcare system
No doubt they’ll be suffering.. but I still don’t see any reason for war there.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

Formerly GrumpyCatFace

https://youtu.be/CYbT8-rSqo0

Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: An apology

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:14 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:10 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:06 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:56 pm


I guess the hope is that the pakis set one off, and everyone else freezes in place for a bit.

I know humans are stupid, but an extinction-level event based on nothing? That’s just... human I guess.
I'm a Cold Warrior, student of Herman Kahn

Control is a delusion, nuclear deterrents have a logic & and a life all unto themselves

In order to make the deterrents credible, human control must be reduced

To convince the other guy you are serious, that you couldn't even stop it if it started rolling

Now Russia & America are not at that level of escalation right now, but India & Pakistan are

They're not at the same place we are, they are still gung-ho for nuclear war, like it's 1965

757 cases of Covfefe in Pakistan, and you know there's gonna be community spread

This blast wave is just arriving in Pakistan, which by the way, has a totally dysfunctional healthcare system
No doubt they’ll be suffering.. but I still don’t see any reason for war there.
You have kids, you can't admit the plausibility, even to yourself

Look at your own inconsistencies

You say there will be economic collapse and hyperinflation ?

Where do you think that would end ?

That's the stuff global hegemonic wars are made of
Nec Aspera Terrent

User avatar
SuburbanFarmer
Posts: 25230
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:50 am
Location: Ohio

Re: An apology

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:19 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:14 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:10 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:06 pm


I'm a Cold Warrior, student of Herman Kahn

Control is a delusion, nuclear deterrents have a logic & and a life all unto themselves

In order to make the deterrents credible, human control must be reduced

To convince the other guy you are serious, that you couldn't even stop it if it started rolling

Now Russia & America are not at that level of escalation right now, but India & Pakistan are

They're not at the same place we are, they are still gung-ho for nuclear war, like it's 1965

757 cases of Covfefe in Pakistan, and you know there's gonna be community spread

This blast wave is just arriving in Pakistan, which by the way, has a totally dysfunctional healthcare system
No doubt they’ll be suffering.. but I still don’t see any reason for war there.
You have kids, you can't admit the plausibility, even to yourself
Plausibility, yes. I just can’t comprehend any line of reasoning that leads to launching a nuke.

Even with birds in the air, oh well. You lost. Why bother wiping out another billion humans?
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

Formerly GrumpyCatFace

https://youtu.be/CYbT8-rSqo0

Smitty-48
Posts: 36399
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

Re: An apology

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:21 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:19 pm


Plausibility, yes. I just can’t comprehend any line of reasoning that leads to launching a nuke.

Even with birds in the air, oh well. You lost. Why bother wiping out another billion humans?
Whatevs, you say economic collapse and hyperinflation, I'm just extrapolating where that would end

This is why you are a SIFCLF : you don't have the courage of your convictions

You actually say America itself is going to implode, yet somehow that wouldn't be a war of hegemonic succession
Last edited by Smitty-48 on Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Nec Aspera Terrent