I guess... obviously war never makes sense, but this is a BIG stretch for a casus belliSmitty-48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:16 pmThe fault line is asymmetricalSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:13 pm
From a brief glance at it, it looks like India is fighting to hang onto Kashmir, which is more ethnically Paki, and doesn’t want to be Indian... seems like a stupid hill to die on.
India over matches Pakistan, Pakistan is David, India is Goliath
If Pakistan ends up backs against the wall, they are going to have to ramp up way more than India to compensate
This would set India off, which would set China off, and so on and so forth
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Thermonuclear war won't start by casus belliSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:19 pm
I guess... obviously war never makes sense, but this is a BIG stretch for a casus belli
It will start by misapprehension, miscalculation and/or plain old mistake
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Again, not Cold War One
America came 2 minutes 12 seconds away from a launch on false warning in 1979
Stan Petrov was so scared of what Oko was telling him on 26 September 1983, he didn't even alert the Kremlin
That's the top of the line early warning
India, Pakistan & North Korea are nowhere near as good at this shit as America & Russia are
If America & Russia can come so close to shitting the bed, India & Pakistan could do it easily
America came 2 minutes 12 seconds away from a launch on false warning in 1979
Stan Petrov was so scared of what Oko was telling him on 26 September 1983, he didn't even alert the Kremlin
That's the top of the line early warning
India, Pakistan & North Korea are nowhere near as good at this shit as America & Russia are
If America & Russia can come so close to shitting the bed, India & Pakistan could do it easily
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And remember, the moment the fur flies, it would be exponentially compounding
If you think panic and chaos is being spread by Covfefe?
Imagine what it would be like if a nuke went off somewhere
This is what I call the Vortex, to the Event Horizon
If you think panic and chaos is being spread by Covfefe?
Imagine what it would be like if a nuke went off somewhere
This is what I call the Vortex, to the Event Horizon
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I guess the hope is that the pakis set one off, and everyone else freezes in place for a bit.
I know humans are stupid, but an extinction-level event based on nothing? That’s just... human I guess.
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I'm a Cold Warrior, student of Herman KahnSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:56 pmI guess the hope is that the pakis set one off, and everyone else freezes in place for a bit.
I know humans are stupid, but an extinction-level event based on nothing? That’s just... human I guess.
Control is a delusion, nuclear deterrents have a logic & and a life all unto themselves
In order to make the deterrents credible, human control must be reduced
To convince the other guy you are serious, that you couldn't even stop it if it started rolling
Now Russia & America are not at that level of escalation right now, but India & Pakistan are
They're not at the same place we are, they are still gung-ho for nuclear war, like it's 1965
757 cases of Covfefe in Pakistan, and you know there's gonna be community spread
This blast wave is just arriving in Pakistan, which by the way, has a totally dysfunctional healthcare system
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No doubt they’ll be suffering.. but I still don’t see any reason for war there.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:06 pmI'm a Cold Warrior, student of Herman KahnSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:56 pmI guess the hope is that the pakis set one off, and everyone else freezes in place for a bit.
I know humans are stupid, but an extinction-level event based on nothing? That’s just... human I guess.
Control is a delusion, nuclear deterrents have a logic & and a life all unto themselves
In order to make the deterrents credible, human control must be reduced
To convince the other guy you are serious, that you couldn't even stop it if it started rolling
Now Russia & America are not at that level of escalation right now, but India & Pakistan are
They're not at the same place we are, they are still gung-ho for nuclear war, like it's 1965
757 cases of Covfefe in Pakistan, and you know there's gonna be community spread
This blast wave is just arriving in Pakistan, which by the way, has a totally dysfunctional healthcare system
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You have kids, you can't admit the plausibility, even to yourselfSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:10 pmNo doubt they’ll be suffering.. but I still don’t see any reason for war there.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:06 pmI'm a Cold Warrior, student of Herman KahnSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:56 pm
I guess the hope is that the pakis set one off, and everyone else freezes in place for a bit.
I know humans are stupid, but an extinction-level event based on nothing? That’s just... human I guess.
Control is a delusion, nuclear deterrents have a logic & and a life all unto themselves
In order to make the deterrents credible, human control must be reduced
To convince the other guy you are serious, that you couldn't even stop it if it started rolling
Now Russia & America are not at that level of escalation right now, but India & Pakistan are
They're not at the same place we are, they are still gung-ho for nuclear war, like it's 1965
757 cases of Covfefe in Pakistan, and you know there's gonna be community spread
This blast wave is just arriving in Pakistan, which by the way, has a totally dysfunctional healthcare system
Look at your own inconsistencies
You say there will be economic collapse and hyperinflation ?
Where do you think that would end ?
That's the stuff global hegemonic wars are made of
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Plausibility, yes. I just can’t comprehend any line of reasoning that leads to launching a nuke.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:14 pmYou have kids, you can't admit the plausibility, even to yourselfSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:10 pmNo doubt they’ll be suffering.. but I still don’t see any reason for war there.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:06 pm
I'm a Cold Warrior, student of Herman Kahn
Control is a delusion, nuclear deterrents have a logic & and a life all unto themselves
In order to make the deterrents credible, human control must be reduced
To convince the other guy you are serious, that you couldn't even stop it if it started rolling
Now Russia & America are not at that level of escalation right now, but India & Pakistan are
They're not at the same place we are, they are still gung-ho for nuclear war, like it's 1965
757 cases of Covfefe in Pakistan, and you know there's gonna be community spread
This blast wave is just arriving in Pakistan, which by the way, has a totally dysfunctional healthcare system
Even with birds in the air, oh well. You lost. Why bother wiping out another billion humans?
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Whatevs, you say economic collapse and hyperinflation, I'm just extrapolating where that would endSuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:19 pm
Plausibility, yes. I just can’t comprehend any line of reasoning that leads to launching a nuke.
Even with birds in the air, oh well. You lost. Why bother wiping out another billion humans?
This is why you are a SIFCLF : you don't have the courage of your convictions
You actually say America itself is going to implode, yet somehow that wouldn't be a war of hegemonic succession
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