So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:34 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
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Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:31 pm
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The economy was plenty boomy under Obama, the stock market was up a 1000%

All my gains were from Bush and Obama, the supposed Trump bump is tiny in comparison.

Vietnam didn't go badly, the Americans annihilated the North Vietnamese.

The Iraq war didn't go badly, the Americans defeated first the Baathists, then AQI, now ISIS, total domination.
Well that's weird, because the Trump is bigger than Obama bump, especially during the first three years in office.
No it's not, I'm in the stock market, and so I can tell you that the massive bump is from 2008

Since 2016 it's only been a slight increase on an already massively inflated market.
I can read a graph dude. You aren't fooling me. Maybe your stocks did better under Bush and Obama, but the same can not be said for most people in the stock market. And like I said, if you compare apples to apples, instead of comparing the gains over eight years to the gains over three years, then the Trump Bump is bigger.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:36 pm

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The nation building went badly in Iraq, there was no nation, they broke it. The nation building went badly in Vietnam too. Winning the battle and then squandering the win without idiotic nation building never goes well for America, it's a mistake to be avoided.
No, it's just a long term process which takes decades.

The expectation that these nations will be sorted out overnight is unrealistic.

Both Vietnam and Iraq are in the American Hegenomy, Empire of Liberty.

Afghanistan too, it's actually booming in Afghanistan, economic growth is 10% per year.

Stabbed in the back by the liberal media, yet still America will prevail in the end.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:37 pm

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Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:36 pm
StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:31 pm


The nation building went badly in Iraq, there was no nation, they broke it. The nation building went badly in Vietnam too. Winning the battle and then squandering the win without idiotic nation building never goes well for America, it's a mistake to be avoided.
No, it's just a long term process which takes decades.

The expectation that these nations will be sorted out overnight is unrealistic.

Both Vietnam and Iraq are in the American Hegenomy, Empire of Liberty.

Afghanistan too, it's actually booming in Afghanistan, economic growth is 10% per year.
They could have been brought into the Empire of Liberty without the nation building boondoggle, and far more successfully with less wasted resources. Never get off the boat, flight to quality, no need to stay on the ground, occupy, and nation build.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:42 pm

StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:37 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:36 pm
StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:31 pm


The nation building went badly in Iraq, there was no nation, they broke it. The nation building went badly in Vietnam too. Winning the battle and then squandering the win without idiotic nation building never goes well for America, it's a mistake to be avoided.
No, it's just a long term process which takes decades.

The expectation that these nations will be sorted out overnight is unrealistic.

Both Vietnam and Iraq are in the American Hegenomy, Empire of Liberty.

Afghanistan too, it's actually booming in Afghanistan, economic growth is 10% per year.
They could have been brought into the Empire of Liberty without the nation building boondoggle, and far more successfully with less wasted resources. Never get off the boat, flight to quality, no need to stay on the ground, occupy, and nation build.
None the less America is a religion which is called to free all the slaves everywhere, which is winning the long war.

Culture is destiny.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:43 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:42 pm
StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:37 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:36 pm


No, it's just a long term process which takes decades.

The expectation that these nations will be sorted out overnight is unrealistic.

Both Vietnam and Iraq are in the American Hegenomy, Empire of Liberty.

Afghanistan too, it's actually booming in Afghanistan, economic growth is 10% per year.
They could have been brought into the Empire of Liberty without the nation building boondoggle, and far more successfully with less wasted resources. Never get off the boat, flight to quality, no need to stay on the ground, occupy, and nation build.
None the less America is a religion which is called to free all the slaves everywhere, which is winning the long war.

Culture is destiny.
They'd be winning even faster and more dominantly if they knocked off the nation building crap, they could speed shit up by decades, and stop holding themselves back unnecessarily. Just because they are so dominant they can win with one hand tied behind their back doesn't mean they should tie one hand behind their back just to make it more challenging.

Free all the slaves everywhere even quicker America, no need to slow yourself down for no good reason.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:48 pm

StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:43 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:42 pm
StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:37 pm
They could have been brought into the Empire of Liberty without the nation building boondoggle, and far more successfully with less wasted resources. Never get off the boat, flight to quality, no need to stay on the ground, occupy, and nation build.
None the less America is a religion which is called to free all the slaves everywhere, which is winning the long war.

Culture is destiny.
They'd be winning even faster and more dominantly if they knocked off the nation building crap, they could speed shit up by decades, and stop holding themselves back unnecessarily. Just because they are so dominant they can win with one hand tied behind their back doesn't mean they should tie one hand behind their back just to make it more challenging.

Free all the slaves everywhere even quicker America, no need to slow yourself down for no good reason.
World War Two and the Marshall Plan FTW.

It worked in Vietnam too. It's working in Iraq.

Stabbed in the back by the lolbergs and the liberal media, yet still America prevails with minimal losses in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:51 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:48 pm
StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:43 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:42 pm


None the less America is a religion which is called to free all the slaves everywhere, which is winning the long war.

Culture is destiny.
They'd be winning even faster and more dominantly if they knocked off the nation building crap, they could speed shit up by decades, and stop holding themselves back unnecessarily. Just because they are so dominant they can win with one hand tied behind their back doesn't mean they should tie one hand behind their back just to make it more challenging.

Free all the slaves everywhere even quicker America, no need to slow yourself down for no good reason.
World War Two and the Marshall Plan FTW.

It worked in Vietnam too. It's working in Iraq.

Stabbed in the back by the lolbergs and the liberal media, yet still America prevails with minimal losses in the grand scheme of things.
America could prevail with less losses. The Marshall Plan doesn't require military occupation to work, if it wasn't for needing to contain and deter the Soviet Union, that would have been the better path than staying. Get Back On The Boat, and Make It Rain with The Marshall Plan, Flight to Quality FTW. Keep what works, ditch what doesn't, no need to keep doing what doesn't work just because what works overwhelms it on a decades long time span. No need for unnecessary detours.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:53 pm

StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:51 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:48 pm
StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:43 pm
They'd be winning even faster and more dominantly if they knocked off the nation building crap, they could speed shit up by decades, and stop holding themselves back unnecessarily. Just because they are so dominant they can win with one hand tied behind their back doesn't mean they should tie one hand behind their back just to make it more challenging.

Free all the slaves everywhere even quicker America, no need to slow yourself down for no good reason.
World War Two and the Marshall Plan FTW.

It worked in Vietnam too. It's working in Iraq.

Stabbed in the back by the lolbergs and the liberal media, yet still America prevails with minimal losses in the grand scheme of things.
America could prevail with less losses. The Marshall Plan doesn't require military occupation to work, if it wasn't for needing to contain and deter the Soviet Union, that would have been the better path than staying. Get Back On The Boat, and Make It Rain with The Marshall Plan, Flight to Quality FTW.
The Marshall Plan required World War Two, 400,000 American KIA.

The Flight to Quality doesn't exist without the Hegenomy, and the Hegenomy was won by force of arms.

Starting at Gettysburg in fact. Glory, glory, hallelujah

From Appomattox Court House to the Sea of Tranquility and beyond.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:56 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:53 pm
StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:51 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:48 pm

World War Two and the Marshall Plan FTW.

It worked in Vietnam too. It's working in Iraq.

Stabbed in the back by the lolbergs and the liberal media, yet still America prevails with minimal losses in the grand scheme of things.
America could prevail with less losses. The Marshall Plan doesn't require military occupation to work, if it wasn't for needing to contain and deter the Soviet Union, that would have been the better path than staying. Get Back On The Boat, and Make It Rain with The Marshall Plan, Flight to Quality FTW.
The Marshall Plan required World War Two, 400,000 American KIA.

The Flight to Quality doesn't exist without the Hegenomy, and the Hegenomy was won by force of arms.
Right but the didn't get their Hegemony by going to war to nation build. They won the war by staying out and getting rich by selling weapons to the British and Russians, which pulled them out of the Great Depression, until Japan dragged them in by attacking them. They became the Hegemon after WWI, by staying out of the war while Britain broke the bank. This going out of the way to nation build crap is what cost Britain it's Hegemony so quickly, and America would be wise to avoid that obvious pitfall.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:57 pm

StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:56 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:53 pm
StCapps wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:51 pm
America could prevail with less losses. The Marshall Plan doesn't require military occupation to work, if it wasn't for needing to contain and deter the Soviet Union, that would have been the better path than staying. Get Back On The Boat, and Make It Rain with The Marshall Plan, Flight to Quality FTW.
The Marshall Plan required World War Two, 400,000 American KIA.

The Flight to Quality doesn't exist without the Hegenomy, and the Hegenomy was won by force of arms.
Right but the didn't get their Hegemony by going to war to nation build.
Yes we did, we invaded Europe and Asia and made it into our Empire of Liberty, supplanting the British as the Hegemon.
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