So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by clubgop » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:11 pm

BjornP wrote:
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Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:35 am
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Well, the Iranians wanted to do lots of killings in retaliation, targets like Kerry would be the least one among them. They should kill people like Clinton, Buttigieg, Ocasio-Cortez, as well as even softer civilian on the US left - those most infuriating to or seen as most treacherous by member of the US right, like comedians, talk show hosts, media figures etc. Want American public support, pick a side in the culture war. And when all those people start dying, don't take responsibility, but have Khamenei release lots and lots of memes that only hint at them being responsible.
Alright you had your fun now be real here. You were just arguing months ago that the Iranian terror network is nothing in comparison to the Wahhabist one. You know they don't have the capability or the sophistication to pull that off even if Soleimani was still around.
Still true. It's a "if they wanted to try their hand at being succesful, they should do this.." post. Assassinating various lib-progressive leaders and influential people isn't something you need experience at being a terrorist for. What government cannot pull off simple assassinations, really? Poisoning, sniper fire, mysterious car malfunctions in mountainous terrain... followed by reasonably plausible deniability.
Assasinations of highly famous and protected people that won't leave a trace, won't get caught, and won't talk? In a country where you don't have any diplomatic relations? It is not that easy and they aint that good and besides that wouldn't be terror. Making the normal regular person fearful would be the goal. Attacking politicians and celebrities would be get the popcorn moment.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by clubgop » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:23 pm

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Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:27 am
Reports that the Ukrainian airplane, which crashed 5 hours after the missile attacks, may have been accidentally shot down by Iranian anti-aircraft missiles.
This is what unintended consequences look like when you escalate already tense relations in the region.
3 Brits and over 50 Canadians amongst the 176 deaths. Probably all Muzzies though so nobody cares right?
Shooting down a civilian aircraft is not an unintended consequence. It was a deliberate attack and great way to isolate Iran and make the US out to be the good guy. It is you that minimizes the victims by trying to blame anyone else but the people that shot the plane down. Typical of your leftist hack bitch ass. A mass shooter? Punish every other gun owner. A hate crime? Ban the opinions you don't like. A civilian air liner shot down? Blame the country that defended its embassy. Same shit, different day.

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:32 pm

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America's problem, no.
America's partial responsibility, perhaps.
Tragic unnecessary loss of life, certainly.
Unless, of course, you are a psychopath devoid of empathy.
Iranians launching attacks on US forces, in the process shot down a bunch of Iranians traveling under Canadian passports back to Iran.

Iranian Own Goal.
No doubt. Iran is going to look scared and trigger happy.

Doesn't change the fact that it was a tragic loss of life worthy of sympathy at least, if empathy is beyond your ability.
20 or so children were on board who bore no responsibility for their own deaths no matter what passports their parents were traveling with.
They were leaving not returning btw.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:00 pm

I think Putin did it.

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by clubgop » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:28 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:00 pm
I think Putin did it.
You could write for MSNBC.

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:39 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:32 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:07 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:00 pm
America's problem, no.
America's partial responsibility, perhaps.
Tragic unnecessary loss of life, certainly.
Unless, of course, you are a psychopath devoid of empathy.
Iranians launching attacks on US forces, in the process shot down a bunch of Iranians traveling under Canadian passports back to Iran.

Iranian Own Goal.
No doubt. Iran is going to look scared and trigger happy.

Doesn't change the fact that it was a tragic loss of life worthy of sympathy at least, if empathy is beyond your ability.
20 or so children were on board who bore no responsibility for their own deaths no matter what passports their parents were traveling with.
They were leaving not returning btw.
C'est la guerre. They took their chances going back to Iran, that's not my responsibility.

Iran is apparently more dangerous than they calculated.

The moral of the story is, once you escape the iron curtain, don't go back.

Hopping back and forth between Canada and Iran, via Ukraine, is a high risk lifestyle.

There is a reason why Canadian airlines don't fly there, they found out why the hard way.

I find that I don't actually sympathize with Iranians who feel it is safe to have a foot in both camps.

They took an ambivalent position, my feelings towards that are appropriately ambivalent in kind.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:54 pm

clubgop wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:28 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:00 pm
I think Putin did it.
You could write for MSNBC.
The next leg was Kiev. Don't sleep on him.

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by pineapplemike » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:39 pm

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