So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:58 pm

In order to analyze the strategic military situation, you have to start with the global financial situation

The situation is that the American Hegemon is propping everybody up, to include China and Russia

You are not going to see escalation to a Hegemonic War in that situation

Nobody is actually going to war against the American hand that feeds them, fake outrage notwithstanding

To get to World War Three, Pax Americana has to go away first, and that is simply not the situation at hand.

Contrary to popular myth, America is actually more ascendant than ever, it's a monoculture entrenched now.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by clubgop » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:09 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:37 am
StCapps wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:25 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:16 am
For my part, it’s just another pointless distraction from economic disaster. A last, flailing attempt at resurrecting the Greatest Generation.

Except for Russia. Tampering with shit on their border is a great way to get the world blown up.
There is no economic disaster, it's an economic boom fucktard. Just because it's going to come to end eventually doesn't make it currently a disaster, all boom's come to an end, that doesn't mean the world is in a perpetual economic disaster just because good times never last forever.

Fucking SIFCLFs.
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Like I said. $500B printed in 3 months. Trucking and shipping industries collapsing.
During a ‘boom’. I can’t make you economically literate, but I can tell you this is not a good sign for 2020.
You said the same thing in 2017, 2018, 2019. it's boring.

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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:18 pm

In order to be a World War prognosticator, one must switch to the long view

Bear in mind that there have only been four Global Hegemons

Spain, France, Britain and America

The wars which overthrew these previous Hegemons, are what I call Wars of Hegemonic Succession

In order to have one, you need a serious challenge to the Hegenomy itself, it's not a question of military power

You won't be powerful enough to challenge the Hegemon, unless and until you are ready to prop everybody else up with your economic might alone

The fact of the matter is that nobody is able to supplant America in that role, not even close

Ergo, no World War Three at this juncture nor on the foreseeable horizon.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:27 pm

See; the First and Second World Wars were Wars of British Hegemonic Succession.

The succession however, was not to Germany nor Japan, the succession was to America.

The military power flows from the financial power, and the financial power flows from a Flight to Quality

China doesn't have a Flight to Quality, nobody is fleeing the free world for Beijing

So they are not actually able to challenge the Hegemon, China in fact, is really just Chimerica now.

They have a few trillion US Dollars, but they don't actually control them, they are not the issuer of that currency

China's power flows from King Dollar, without King Dollar, China is broke.

China can't afford to fight a trade war against the hand that feeds them, never mind a shooting war (which they would lose)
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:53 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:33 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:14 pm
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Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:53 pm
This is the underlying reason for all the EU hatred we see in the US.
Running scared from the competition.
That’s more about our natural resistance to ‘multi-national government’, and absurd over-regulation.

When we see dozens of unique cultures being absorbed into some kind of weird conglomerate, we recoil.

And yes, I say this even as I laugh at the idea of CW2. By the time they’ve established their own army, it’s too late to get out.
How's that under regulation working out in Flint? How about the hormone-injected meat your kids eat or the bleached chickens?

It's a trading block, the biggest threat to European cultures is coming from the US. Mc Donalds restaurants on every street teaching kids to eat junk. US films mangling history with their tales of how Americans cracked the Enigma code and won WWII single-handedly.
Our soldiers getting dragged into your wars of imperial aggression to secure oil for your gas-guzzling V8s.
It's not the EU absorbing unique cultures into a homogenous blob.
Flynt, MI is a Democrat Boondongle... they ran that town for decades... Just like Chicago, IL. Both Shitholes due to DNC corruption...

Don't talk about shit you know nothing about... because it's more than obvious about now.

As for the rest of your BS post, the US wouldn't have to get involved in the EU or the UN had some fucking balls.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:56 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:27 pm
See; the First and Second World Wars were Wars of British Hegemonic Succession.

The succession however, was not to Germany nor Japan, the succession was to America.

The military power flows from the financial power, and the financial power flows from a Flight to Quality

China doesn't have a Flight to Quality, nobody is fleeing the free world for Beijing

So they are not actually able to challenge the Hegemon, China in fact, is really just Chimerica now.

They have a few trillion US Dollars, but they don't actually control them, they are not the issuer of that currency

China's power flows from King Dollar, without King Dollar, China is broke.

China can't afford to fight a trade war against the hand that feeds them, never mind a shooting war (which they would lose)
China has 1.1 Trillion of US debt... we could wipe that out pretty quickly if we wanted to with negotiations.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:11 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:56 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:27 pm
See; the First and Second World Wars were Wars of British Hegemonic Succession.

The succession however, was not to Germany nor Japan, the succession was to America.

The military power flows from the financial power, and the financial power flows from a Flight to Quality

China doesn't have a Flight to Quality, nobody is fleeing the free world for Beijing

So they are not actually able to challenge the Hegemon, China in fact, is really just Chimerica now.

They have a few trillion US Dollars, but they don't actually control them, they are not the issuer of that currency

China's power flows from King Dollar, without King Dollar, China is broke.

China can't afford to fight a trade war against the hand that feeds them, never mind a shooting war (which they would lose)
China has 1.1 Trillion of US debt... we could wipe that out pretty quickly if we wanted to with negotiations.
There's no need to wipe it out, the buying of American debt is a sign of American strength not weakness

America has lots of leeway, 108% debt to GDP is not bad when you are the global Hegemon.

China is only taken seriously because they are paying people with American IOU's

China doesn't have that power with its own currency, so China is under the rule of King Dollar just like everybody else.

Foreign countries holding trillions of US dollars is an American takeover, that's King Dollar projecting power

Americans get the goods and services, China takes American IOU's in payment, that's Chimerica.
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:19 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:11 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:56 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:27 pm
See; the First and Second World Wars were Wars of British Hegemonic Succession.

The succession however, was not to Germany nor Japan, the succession was to America.

The military power flows from the financial power, and the financial power flows from a Flight to Quality

China doesn't have a Flight to Quality, nobody is fleeing the free world for Beijing

So they are not actually able to challenge the Hegemon, China in fact, is really just Chimerica now.

They have a few trillion US Dollars, but they don't actually control them, they are not the issuer of that currency

China's power flows from King Dollar, without King Dollar, China is broke.

China can't afford to fight a trade war against the hand that feeds them, never mind a shooting war (which they would lose)
China has 1.1 Trillion of US debt... we could wipe that out pretty quickly if we wanted to with negotiations.
There's no need to wipe it out, the buying of American debt is a sign of American strength not weakness

America has lots of leeway, 108% debt to GDP is not bad when you are the global Hegemon.

China is only taken seriously because they are paying people with American IOU's

China doesn't have that power with its own currency, so China is under the rule of King Dollar just like everybody else.

Foreign countries holding trillions of US dollars is an American takeover, that's King Dollar projecting power
I understand that but what happens if China calls in the debt?
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:21 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:19 pm


I understand that but what happens if China calls in the debt?
Someone else will buy the debt at a slightly higher interest rate

China would make itself an outlier to refuse to buy American debt, it doesn't give them any power over America

Higher interest rates are not necessarily a bad thing neither, just switch to fixed income.

Most of America's debt is held by Americans, China's share is not that much, only around 10%, it's not leverage
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Re: So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

Post by The Conservative » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:24 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:21 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:19 pm


I understand that but what happens if China calls in the debt?
Someone else will buy the debt at a slightly higher interest rate

China would make itself an outlier to refuse to buy American debt, it doesn't give them any power over America

Higher interest rates are not necessarily a bad thing neither, just switch to fixed income.

Most of America's debt is held by Americans, China's share is not that much, around 10%
If they can afford to if the US gains too much of its debt back, other countries may not be able or willing to pay the upfront costs for long-term gain in theory.

The US Dollar would become much more powerful if a Trillion was recalled on it...
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