Civil War Coming?

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Re: Civil War Coming?

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:12 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:08 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:29 am
DBTrek wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:24 am
City-states are awesome Martin. The only way to balance power is to distribute it, and city states do that beautifully. The UN, on the other hand, is a looming tyranny that would collect all power to itself if given an opportunity.
The UN is an American institution, just like all the rest.

World Bank, IMF, WTO, NATO, etc, it's all America.

If Americans do not defend and uphold them, nobody else would.

There is only one free country, and as such, it is the only one country in the end.

Well Regulated Militia, there is no one else.

The liberal order ? Us and those like us, nobody else is defending anything, everybody else is a passenger.

China ? Russia ? India ? Without America, they would collapse into civil disorder.

Without FDR, there is no UN, he created it, from scratch.

If America said tomorrow ; there is no UN, it would be gone, just like that,
The UN replaced the League of Nations, both are US created entities, and both have ended up becoming useless because of the people we have allowed into them.

As for the rest, if the US collapsed, the world would go into a dark age... just as with what happened when Rome collapsed. The US isn't like Russia, or even the EU... for if the EU collapsed Europe would go into a Dark Age again, but the US due to the lack of coherence of China right now, would be able to maintain its world dominance by becoming the world producer again.

The US has a massive infrastructure that is laying dormant... I am waiting for the time that machine wakes up again. For me though, I think it's closer than most people realize. If China keeps going the way it is, we may see it start to waken before Trump's final year in his second term.
Whatever, I'm just loving it. No fears on earth, land of the free, home of the brave, there's nothing better.

You can give me a million reasons to walk away, but I just need one to love America, and I'm good like that.

Tell em' Stephanie.

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Re: Civil War Coming?

Post by The Conservative » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:14 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:12 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:08 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:29 am


The UN is an American institution, just like all the rest.

World Bank, IMF, WTO, NATO, etc, it's all America.

If Americans do not defend and uphold them, nobody else would.

There is only one free country, and as such, it is the only one country in the end.

Well Regulated Militia, there is no one else.

The liberal order ? Us and those like us, nobody else is defending anything, everybody else is a passenger.

China ? Russia ? India ? Without America, they would collapse into civil disorder.

Without FDR, there is no UN, he created it, from scratch.

If America said tomorrow ; there is no UN, it would be gone, just like that,
The UN replaced the League of Nations, both are US created entities, and both have ended up becoming useless because of the people we have allowed into them.

As for the rest, if the US collapsed, the world would go into a dark age... just as with what happened when Rome collapsed. The US isn't like Russia, or even the EU... for if the EU collapsed Europe would go into a Dark Age again, but the US due to the lack of coherence of China right now, would be able to maintain its world dominance by becoming the world producer again.

The US has a massive infrastructure that is laying dormant... I am waiting for the time that machine wakes up again. For me though, I think it's closer than most people realize. If China keeps going the way it is, we may see it start to waken before Trump's final year in his second term.
Whatever, I'm just loving it. No fears on earth, land of the free, home of the brave, there's nothing better.

You can give me a million reasons to walk away, but I just need one to love America, and I'm good like that.

Tell em' Stephanie.

Fear is what keeps you alive, as long as you don't let fear control you. Realize where the fear is coming from, confront it, and either squash it, or make it go away... but never ignore it.

You can love America like you love a ship, but when rats are invading the ship, and putting holes on it, you either got to get rid of the rats, fix the holes or abandon ship, it matters on what you are willing to do for it. Talking in platitudes about how much you love something is nice, but actions speak louder than words.
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Re: Civil War Coming?

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:17 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:06 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:01 pm
It's like an axe head arguing with a handle.
Both pretty useless without each other.
Farms are useless without cities?
Bzzzzzzt!

Try again.
:lol:
Where do you think the farm's customers are?
Without the cities, you're just subsistence farmers wondering where the parts for your tractor are coming from.
Without the farms, your cities are wondering where the next meal is coming from.
Without both, you're just going backwards.
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Re: Civil War Coming?

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:18 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:14 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:12 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:08 pm


The UN replaced the League of Nations, both are US created entities, and both have ended up becoming useless because of the people we have allowed into them.

As for the rest, if the US collapsed, the world would go into a dark age... just as with what happened when Rome collapsed. The US isn't like Russia, or even the EU... for if the EU collapsed Europe would go into a Dark Age again, but the US due to the lack of coherence of China right now, would be able to maintain its world dominance by becoming the world producer again.

The US has a massive infrastructure that is laying dormant... I am waiting for the time that machine wakes up again. For me though, I think it's closer than most people realize. If China keeps going the way it is, we may see it start to waken before Trump's final year in his second term.
Whatever, I'm just loving it. No fears on earth, land of the free, home of the brave, there's nothing better.

You can give me a million reasons to walk away, but I just need one to love America, and I'm good like that.

Tell em' Stephanie.

Fear is what keeps you alive, as long as you don't let fear control you. Realize where the fear is coming from, confront it, and either squash it, or make it go away... but never ignore it.

You can love America like you love a ship, but when rats are invading the ship, and putting holes on it, you either got to get rid of the rats, fix the holes or abandon ship, it matters on what you are willing to do for it. Talking in platitudes about how much you love something is nice, but actions speak louder than words.
I'll love America as I please, if someone is want to try to stop me, send bachelors, come heavy.
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Re: Civil War Coming?

Post by The Conservative » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:20 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:18 pm

I'll love America as I please, if someone is want to try to stop me, send bachelors, come heavy.
Then you better be willing to defend it, because right now platitudes won't save a country attacked from within.
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Re: Civil War Coming?

Post by DBTrek » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:20 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:17 pm

Where do you think the farm's customers are?

Indeed.
If there were no cities, who would eat food?
Very thought provoking.
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Re: Civil War Coming?

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:23 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:20 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:18 pm

I'll love America as I please, if someone is want to try to stop me, send bachelors, come heavy.
Then you better be willing to defend it, because right now platitudes won't save a country attacked from within.
I walk tall and trust in the Lord, if someone bars my path, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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Re: Civil War Coming?

Post by The Conservative » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:25 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:23 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:20 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:18 pm

I'll love America as I please, if someone is want to try to stop me, send bachelors, come heavy.
Then you better be willing to defend it, because right now platitudes won't save a country attacked from within.
I walk tall and trust in the Lord, if someone bars my path, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
People who talk as religion is a shield hold no sway over me. You can wear your religion as a shield, you know what though, I know plenty of AlQueda that do the same thing, and honestly that much fervor into this kind of BS makes me sick.

The founding fathers were religious, but they were not zelots.
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Re: Civil War Coming?

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:26 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:25 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:23 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:20 pm


Then you better be willing to defend it, because right now platitudes won't save a country attacked from within.
I walk tall and trust in the Lord, if someone bars my path, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
People who talk as religion is a shield hold no sway over me. You can wear your religion as a shield, you know what though, I know plenty of AlQueda that do the same thing, and honestly that much fervor into this kind of BS makes me sick.

The founding fathers were religious, but they were nor zelots.
Good luck to you, citizen, I am at peace with my choices.
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Re: Civil War Coming?

Post by DBTrek » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:28 pm

Dude ... why get mad at people who believe in God if you don’t?

The real answer is ... because Satan compels your atheist ass to be infuriated.
;)

Stop doing the devil’s bidding. Think for yourself.
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