Civil War Coming?

[Martin Hash]

6-3 Republican SCOTUS coming at you, enjoy. It's their constitution naow! Muahaha.

Yes, via an unconstitutional act by McConnell to fuck Obama. This is the hammering at the structure I was talking about.

How could this level of difference not lead to Civil War? I've offered two non-fighting possible solutions. What do you think would work?

[Fife]

Fucking hilarious tho, to see the courtiers for crumbs from the goons in D.C. have to see their tricks backfire.

[Martin Hash]

We might have a healthy debate about the primary imperative, but I'm confident that we can agree that it sure AF wasn't "democracy." Hamilton would soil his lacy underwear at the suggestion of such heresy.

What do you think was the Constitution’s intent: life? Property?

Graft and corruption, mostly. Stealing from the poor to give to the rich in federal city.

Most government programs that are cooked up by non-responsible and self-interested agents behind locked doors and then sold after the fact with fabrications and fiction are not the best.

Hmmm... No amount of adjustment is going to solve that complaint. People are flawed. We would kill each other if we thought we could get away with it. The Constitution is nothing more than an agreement to prevent that from happening. I can't think of a better one that would do the same thing?

[Fife]

What do you think was the Constitution’s intent: life? Property?

Graft and corruption, mostly. Stealing from the poor to give to the rich in federal city.

Most government programs that are cooked up by non-responsible and self-interested agents behind locked doors and then sold after the fact with fabrications and fiction are not the best.

Hmmm... No amount of adjustment is going to solve that complaint. People are flawed. We would kill each other if we thought we could get away with it. The Constitution is nothing more than an agreement to prevent that from happening. I can't think of a better one that would do the same thing?

Maybe. If questioning the process that produced the constitution is bad, I'll cop to that.

I guess we could fire up the Hot Tub Time Machine and prevent the usurpations of the convention to see how the Articles of Confederation would have turned out. Would we have killed each other if we thought we could get away with it under that form of government? Unlike the million Americans we actually know who King Abraham killed or maimed under authority claimed (somehow) pursuant to the constitution, we'll never know, I reckon.

[brewster]

All hail Mitch McConnell.

Sure, but when the Constitution dies after the beating you give it, and with it that EC nonsense, unless you're going to go all in on nondemocratic Authoritarianism, where's your electoral control?

[StCapps]

All hail Mitch McConnell.

Sure, but when the Constitution dies after the beating you give it, and with it that EC nonsense, unless you're going to go all in on nondemocratic Authoritarianism, where's your electoral control?

The constitution will be preserved, you will prevented from giving it a beating, and there is nothing you can do about it.

[Martin Hash]

What's this fixation on democracy and where's it coming from?

[The Conservative]

What's this fixation on democracy and where's it coming from?

People who don't understand the constitution.

[Martin Hash]

Graft and corruption, mostly. Stealing from the poor to give to the rich in federal city.

Most government programs that are cooked up by non-responsible and self-interested agents behind locked doors and then sold after the fact with fabrications and fiction are not the best.

Hmmm... No amount of adjustment is going to solve that complaint. People are flawed. We would kill each other if we thought we could get away with it. The Constitution is nothing more than an agreement to prevent that from happening. I can't think of a better one that would do the same thing?

Maybe. If questioning the process that produced the constitution is bad, I'll cop to that.

I guess we could fire up the Hot Tub Time Machine and prevent the usurpations of the convention to see how the Articles of Confederation would have turned out. Would we have killed each other if we thought we could get away with it under that form of government? Unlike the million Americans we actually know who King Abraham killed or maimed under authority claimed (somehow) pursuant to the constitution, we'll never know, I reckon.

If the Articles were defendable as a solution, The Constitution would not have gotten traction. Any changes The Constitution needed, it got for the first two Centuries of this country. It hasn't changed in the last 50 years though; that probably signals something? Could be, it's done?

[The Conservative]

Hmmm... No amount of adjustment is going to solve that complaint. People are flawed. We would kill each other if we thought we could get away with it. The Constitution is nothing more than an agreement to prevent that from happening. I can't think of a better one that would do the same thing?

Maybe. If questioning the process that produced the constitution is bad, I'll cop to that.

I guess we could fire up the Hot Tub Time Machine and prevent the usurpations of the convention to see how the Articles of Confederation would have turned out. Would we have killed each other if we thought we could get away with it under that form of government? Unlike the million Americans we actually know who King Abraham killed or maimed under authority claimed (somehow) pursuant to the constitution, we'll never know, I reckon.

If the Articles were defendable as a solution, The Constitution would not have gotten traction. Any changes The Constitution needed, it got for the first two Centuries of this country. It hasn't changed in the last 50 years though; that probably signals something? Could be, it's done?

Not without some level of agreement...