Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

[brewster]

So answer my last question.

If there was nothing to it, and no wrongdoing, then why is the investigation plus 15 others being opened back up?

Trump wanted one, not 16.

1st, you should be the last to be saying 'where there's an investigation there must be a crime', given your position.
2nd: Christ, you want to know exactly why a corrupt, failing state would open investigations related to one of the biggest shitshows in American history? I don't know, could be they're doubling down on Trump, figuring if he survives he'll look favorably on them. Or they're trying to show they're not as corrupt as everyone is saying.

But, you know, even IF the whole Biden allegation were true, it wouldn't change the fact that Trump was trying to get a foreign government to investigate his political rival. Are you claiming the 'possibility' of it being true negates the impropriety of Trump's act?

[Smitty-48]

Only the guilty fear investigation.

LOL! So much for the Fourth Amendment, lads. Here comes the Bollocks.

Woke Monty's Police State.

[Montegriffo]

Maggie would not approve of your disdain for law and order.
It used to be the Conservatives who were the party of rule of law. Now we have a Tory leadership that scoffs at the law and breaks it at will.

[Smitty-48]

Maggie would not approve of your disdain for law and order.
It used to be the Conservatives who were the party of rule of law. Now we have a Tory leadership that scoffs at the law and breaks it at will.

And now we are the party of Scorched Earth, We will burn this Western world rather than surrender it.

[Montegriffo]

[StCapps]

What Biden did was carrying out US policy.

But when Trump does it, it's not carrying out US policy somehow? Okay, hack bitch, sure whatever, no double standard there. You can't prove Trump did what he did, only for his own political gain and NO OTHER REASON, without having proof of him saying so explicitly, and you need first hand witness to do that, or you need proof of it in writing, or you need a Nixon tape like scenario where Trump is recorded saying as much. You have none of that, the little evidence they do have of Trump saying things regarding this matter, in fact leads to the exact opposite conclusion.

You don't have a Nixon tape smoking gun, so pretending you do, based on diplomat gossip is laughable, and that's what the Democrats are doing.

You can't mind read anymore than these gossipy diplomats can, give it a rest. This is where the Democrats insist on hanging their hat though, the impressions of people with no first hand knowledge, with their impressions built on hearsay and speculation. If the Democrats insist on impeaching on that alone, they'll get crushed in 2020 even more than they otherwise would have.

[Hastur]

It's not for political gain... as it has been shown Biden did it specifically for personal gain... Trump wanted it investigated. This is not outside the realm of a legal request.

I guess this branch of conversation ends with that untruth. It's been solidly debunked, Biden was implementing US policy and not off on his own.

Seriously now. If there was information suggesting that the vice president of the USA used the power of the US government to pressure another nation just to help his son get rich, would it be wrong to look into that? Are political opponents immune from investigation? What, in that case, was the Muller investigation about? What is this current shit show?

[StCapps]

It's not for political gain... as it has been shown Biden did it specifically for personal gain... Trump wanted it investigated. This is not outside the realm of a legal request.

I guess this branch of conversation ends with that untruth. It's been solidly debunked, Biden was implementing US policy and not off on his own.

Seriously now. If there was information suggesting that the vice president of the USA used the power of the US government to pressure another nation just to help his son get rich, would it be wrong to look into that? Are political opponents immune from investigation? What, in that case, was the Muller investigation about? What is this current shit show?

If political opponents were immune from investigation, then all you have to do to avoid investigation is run for office as a political opponent. Talk about a sure fire way to encourage those seeking to avoid investigation to run for political office.

[Hastur]

I guess this branch of conversation ends with that untruth. It's been solidly debunked, Biden was implementing US policy and not off on his own.

Seriously now. If there was information suggesting that the vice president of the USA used the power of the US government to pressure another nation just to help his son get rich, would it be wrong to look into that? Are political opponents immune from investigation? What, in that case, was the Muller investigation about? What is this current shit show?

If political opponents were immune from investigation, then all you have to do to avoid investigation is run for office as a political opponent. Talk about a sure fire way to encourage those seeking to avoid investigation to run for political office.

Sounds exactly like the late Roman republic.

[Hastur]

Just get lawyers out of politics. They already have their own branch of government. Kick them out of the others.