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Re: UK election

Post by StCapps » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:52 am

Nigel Farage co-ordinating with the Tories, Brexit incoming.
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:08 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:52 am
Nigel Farage co-ordinating with the Tories, Brexit incoming.
All he's done is promise not to put up candidates in seats where Tories won last time.
No one believed that he had 650 candidates ready to stand anyway.
Of course, it's the seats the Conservatives failed to win last time which are important if they are to win a majority in the house and if the BP is going to stand in those constituencies then they will split the vote and reduce their chance of winning them.
Also, coordinate implies that the Tories will reciprocate but this is not happening. Farage has been doing the rounds today bitching about how Boris is making zero concessions in favour of the BP.
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Re: UK election

Post by StCapps » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:09 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:08 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:52 am
Nigel Farage co-ordinating with the Tories, Brexit incoming.
All he's done is promise not to put up candidates in seats where Tories won last time.
No one believed that he had 650 candidates ready to stand anyway.
Of course, it's the seats the Conservatives failed to win last time which are important if they are to win a majority in the house and if the BP is going to stand in those constituencies then they will split the vote and reduce their chance of winning them.
Also, coordinate implies that the Tories will reciprocate but this is not happening. Farage has been doing the rounds today bitching about how Boris is making zero concessions in favour of the BP.
Tories don't need a majority to get Brexit, they just need a coalition that constitutes a majority with the help of the Brexit party. If the Tory and Brexit seats add up to a majority, then Brexit is happening, and that is very likely to happen with Brexit stepping down in certain key ridings, probably would happen even without that happening, but it's basically a lock with it happening.

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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:35 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:09 am

You mad bro?
No, just better informed than you.
The pro-remain parties combined have a greater share of the vote than the pro-Brexit parties.
Labour, SNP and the Lib Dem's combined are polling higher than the Tories and BP. Then there are the Greens and pro-remain former Conservative MPs who are now standing as independents since being thrown out of the party by Boris.
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Re: UK election

Post by StCapps » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:37 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:35 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:09 am

You mad bro?
No, just better informed than you.
The pro-remain parties combined have a greater share of the vote than the pro-Brexit parties.
Labour, SNP and the Lib Dem's combined are polling higher than the Tories and BP.
No they aren't. Also Labour, SNP and Lib Dems are going to split the vote more than Tory and Brexit.

You are just clinging to wishful thinking. The Pro-Brexit camp is winning according to your polls which are no doubt underestimating their support and have every incentive to skew the polls against them to try and buoy the remoaners.
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:01 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:37 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:35 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:09 am

You mad bro?
No, just better informed than you.
The pro-remain parties combined have a greater share of the vote than the pro-Brexit parties.
Labour, SNP and the Lib Dem's combined are polling higher than the Tories and BP.
No they aren't. Also Labour, SNP and Lib Dems are going to split the vote more than Tory and Brexit.

You are just clinging to wishful thinking. The Pro-Brexit camp is winning according to your polls which are no doubt underestimating their support and have every incentive to skew the polls against them to try and buoy the remoaners.
The Tories and BP are polling between 40-45% with the Tories at a solid 30%. Whilst polls are notoriously difficult to project into seats in a first past the post system it is clearly not a majority. Pro-remain parties are also forming non-aggression pacts in order to maximise their chances of beating the Tories.
Your certainty underlines your ignorance. It is too close to call although most pundits are predicting another hung Parliament.
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Re: UK election

Post by The Conservative » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:03 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:01 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:37 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:35 am


No, just better informed than you.
The pro-remain parties combined have a greater share of the vote than the pro-Brexit parties.
Labour, SNP and the Lib Dem's combined are polling higher than the Tories and BP.
No they aren't. Also Labour, SNP and Lib Dems are going to split the vote more than Tory and Brexit.

You are just clinging to wishful thinking. The Pro-Brexit camp is winning according to your polls which are no doubt underestimating their support and have every incentive to skew the polls against them to try and buoy the remoaners.
The Tories and BP are polling between 40-45% with the Tories at a solid 30%. Whilst polls are notoriously difficult to project into seats in a first past the post system it is clearly not a majority. Pro-remain parties are also forming non-aggression pacts in order to maximise their chances of beating the Tories.
Your certainty underlines your ignorance. It is too close to call although most pundits are predicting another hung Parliament.
That is the only thing parliament can claim it is.
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Re: UK election

Post by StCapps » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:10 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:01 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:37 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:35 am


No, just better informed than you.
The pro-remain parties combined have a greater share of the vote than the pro-Brexit parties.
Labour, SNP and the Lib Dem's combined are polling higher than the Tories and BP.
No they aren't. Also Labour, SNP and Lib Dems are going to split the vote more than Tory and Brexit.

You are just clinging to wishful thinking. The Pro-Brexit camp is winning according to your polls which are no doubt underestimating their support and have every incentive to skew the polls against them to try and buoy the remoaners.
The Tories and BP are polling between 40-45% with the Tories at a solid 30%. Whilst polls are notoriously difficult to project into seats in a first past the post system it is clearly not a majority. Pro-remain parties are also forming non-aggression pacts in order to maximise their chances of beating the Tories.
Your certainty underlines your ignorance. It is too close to call although most pundits are predicting another hung Parliament.
The Tories are closer to 40, are you even following the polls? Because apparently not, the aggregate has them at 38-39%, not 30%. Check again.
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:12 pm

StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:10 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:01 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:37 am
No they aren't. Also Labour, SNP and Lib Dems are going to split the vote more than Tory and Brexit.

You are just clinging to wishful thinking. The Pro-Brexit camp is winning according to your polls which are no doubt underestimating their support and have every incentive to skew the polls against them to try and buoy the remoaners.
The Tories and BP are polling between 40-45% with the Tories at a solid 30%. Whilst polls are notoriously difficult to project into seats in a first past the post system it is clearly not a majority. Pro-remain parties are also forming non-aggression pacts in order to maximise their chances of beating the Tories.
Your certainty underlines your ignorance. It is too close to call although most pundits are predicting another hung Parliament.
The Tories are closer to 40, are you even following the polls? Because apparently not, the aggregate has them at 38-39%, not 30%. Check again.
Hadn't noticed the recent drop in BP votes. They're running at about half of what they were a couple of weeks ago and are predicted to win zero seats. Even the Greens are predicted to win one seat. All they are doing is getting in Boris's way.
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Re: UK election

Post by StCapps » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:36 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:12 pm
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:10 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:01 am


The Tories and BP are polling between 40-45% with the Tories at a solid 30%. Whilst polls are notoriously difficult to project into seats in a first past the post system it is clearly not a majority. Pro-remain parties are also forming non-aggression pacts in order to maximise their chances of beating the Tories.
Your certainty underlines your ignorance. It is too close to call although most pundits are predicting another hung Parliament.
The Tories are closer to 40, are you even following the polls? Because apparently not, the aggregate has them at 38-39%, not 30%. Check again.
Hadn't noticed the recent drop in BP votes. They're running at about half of what they were a couple of weeks ago and are predicted to win zero seats. Even the Greens are predicted to win one seat. All they are doing is getting in Boris's way.
Not if Brexit stands down in the seats where Conservatives can win, and even if they don't do that, the Brexit crowd will simply vote strategically in those ridings.
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