The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm

The Conservative wrote:
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Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:30 pm
The Conservative wrote:
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I understand that, but the point is that when we used to just clean slate, things were a lot simpler.
No, that's not the case, on the whole, Americans fight honorably, My Lai's are the tragic exceptions not the rule.
I'm not sorry for what I'm going to say next...

What has fighting honorably gotten us except a few thousand dead and no respect world wide?
Self respect, dignity, and the righteousness of Christian soldiers.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by The Conservative » Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:48 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:13 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:30 pm

No, that's not the case, on the whole, Americans fight honorably, My Lai's are the tragic exceptions not the rule.
I'm not sorry for what I'm going to say next...

What has fighting honorably gotten us except a few thousand dead and no respect world wide?
Self respect, dignity, and the righteousness of Christian soldiers.
Only a fool believes the enemy will respect them if they show restraint. Especially this enemy.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:50 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:48 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:13 pm


I'm not sorry for what I'm going to say next...

What has fighting honorably gotten us except a few thousand dead and no respect world wide?
Self respect, dignity, and the righteousness of Christian soldiers.
Only a fool believes the enemy will respect them if they show restraint. Especially this enemy.
No fears on earth, I'll follow the Lord, WWJD

I'm a sinner, but I'm still a Christian soldier.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:41 am

Honor can really only be bestowed by honorable men. What some rapist jihadi thinks or does is really irrelevant. The reason those guys fail so often has much to do with their lack of honor. And their culture sure as shit knows what it is. Not sure what happened to them that these kinds of maniacs get so much power.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:48 am

Interview with Chargin' Charlie Beckwith, on war the Middle East. circa 1990

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531 ... 1/#track/1
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by The Conservative » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:48 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:50 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:48 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm


Self respect, dignity, and the righteousness of Christian soldiers.
Only a fool believes the enemy will respect them if they show restraint. Especially this enemy.
No fears on earth, I'll follow the Lord, WWJD

I'm a sinner, but I'm still a Christian soldier.
You know, religion aside because I don't believe that religion is an answer. Especially for the sheer fact that it's man-made.

Art of War and all other documents have all stated that allowing the enemy to have any foothold in any manner, especially once that can be eradicated with ease, should not be allowed to fester.

You don't give your enemy a way out, especially an enemy that would be willing to stab you in the back as quickly and as readily and as quickly as an eye blinks.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:49 pm

Sun Tzu actually said the opposite. You should always leave your enemy a way out or they fight many times harder because they have no exit.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by The Conservative » Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:59 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:49 pm
Sun Tzu actually said the opposite. You should always leave your enemy a way out or they fight many times harder because they have no exit.
Tu Mu puts it, is "to make him believe that there is a road to safety, and thus prevent his fighting with the courage of despair." Tu Mu adds pleasantly: "After that, you may crush him."
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:01 pm

Now try to comprehend the sentence you just quoted.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by The Conservative » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:06 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:01 pm
Now try to comprehend the sentence you just quoted.
Very simple, leave them a way that they think they can escape, and then when they do so, destroy them. It's a pretty simple explanation.

I thought you were smart?
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