The Space War Thread

[TheReal_ND]

Jews. Jews. Jews. Yes they are a problem. Why are they a problem to my mind? Well I thought pointing out their nature was enough but for some reason they have been raised up as idols in contemporary society. I can't go over all the reasons that jews are posion to western men again. Suffice it to say, if you believe they are your friend, you are a cuck.

You will see. Eventually you will have some cognitive dissonance because I pointed out they are different from you and work towards different ends. You will ignore this and at the same time seek out reasons to put jews on a pedestal. You will experience an unpleasant feeling until you look at truth in the face. I can't make anyone look at the truth I can only point it out. It's up to you.

[Montegriffo]

I hear that they eat space babies.

[TheReal_ND]

Yes I hear there are masturbation machines and wooden doors

[Montegriffo]

We've got 100 years (in Smitty's lifeline) to drift further away from the crutch of religion. Look how far we have come in the last 100 years.
Only religious extremists and crackpot messiahs will be left by then.
The Islamic State In Space (ISIS) will be of little significance other than the occasional martyr drone attack on supply ships.
The Televangelists fight it out until there is only one giant megachurch left. The Church of Billy Graham becomes so rich from donations that they build the Space Ship Mayflower and fill it with 10 million Christian colonists in search of a new world.
Poor design of the ship led to famine, factional warfare and eventually a great plague wiped them out. The SS Mayflower now drifts out in interstellar space burnt out and void of life.
Apparently, going into space with the belief that God will provide doesn't help when you run out of food and start killing each other over different interpretations of a 2000-year-old book.
The dear leader is the nearest thing left to God. It is the dear leader's face you see everywhere on the screens. It is the dear leader's words you twist and distort to your will, not those of a bunch of hippy fishermen from the ancient world.

[StCapps]

Religion might lose more ground in globalist land, but will thrive in America. Getting rid of religion is not progress, it simply leads that religious impulse to be displayed in other way, like Climate Doomsday Cults for example or just generally putting religious faith in science. Religion ain't going away, even atheists are religious, just not about religion.

[Montegriffo]

The whole world is subjugated under the Orwellian Panopticon, the totalitarian surveillance state.

Americans overthrow this in the Second War of Independence, the constitution wins.

America is the only free country left, America is the only place you are not in the Panopticon.

There is another Great Awakening in the face of godless atheist communism.

Americans recoil from the onset of global totalitarianism, and it is a Christian faith based revolt.

How long after the Second War of Independence will it be set? Will the leaders of the 2nd WoI be the one's leading the push into space to avoid godless atheist encirclement, or will it be a generation or two after them?

It's like the first War of Independence, it goes down in a decade or so, and just like in the first WoI, the defeated are forced to flee to the Canada's, not Canada anymore, but a loose federation controlled by the Globalists.

There are already colonies in space at this point, but they are nascent, just a foothold.

When the Cold War escalates, there is a JFK moment where the new POTUS calls for a Space Race.

The Globalists do as the Soviets did and respond, but since it is the UN, they are much more powerful and formidable than the Soviets, so it's neck and neck.

The big push is to build space docks, the space elevators, with the space elevators, it picks up pace, because you don't need rockets to get to orbit, you ride the elevator up to the dock, then you assemble your spaceships there.

America builds two huge space elevators, one in Cape Canaveral and one in Vandenberg.

The Globalists build them in Guyana and Kazakhstan.

Up in orbit the space docks are assembling ships and launching them.

There is also a return to the Moon, there are two huge moon bases.

Both sides also build Habitats in orbit, like in the movie Elysium, although maybe not that big.

The United States Space Force Academy is on the American habitat; to prepare you to live in space.

If you are an officer candidate for the USSF Academy, you are your wife and children move to the orbital habitat.

From there you and your wife and children go to space, your wife and kids are coming with you.

Because you're going to be up there for years, maybe you're never coming back.

When you get posted to space, it's like West Germany or South Korea, you're defending it,and you live there.

The colonies are like military camps with families accompanying.

Bear in mind, you can't live on spaceship, there's too much radiation from the sun.

So the ships are highly automated, they transport colonists and whatnot, but the crews are small and they rotate.

Space war is land war, it's colony wars, either on a planet or in a habitat.

The crew of a spaceship is like in 2001: A Space Odyssey, it's mostly passengers and cargo, not crew.

The crew itself is like two guys with HAL 9000, it's not like the Starship Enterprise.

Even with nuclear electric rockets, it's going to take months to get places

So troops and passengers sleep, the crew of two or three runs things with an AI

The crews swap out when they've soaked up too much radiation.

The radiation shielding is better than it is now, but even in the future, after a few years you have to switch jobs.

In the Space Force you have to be able to all the jobs, space crew, space colonist, space marine

You are an astronaut in the classical sense, you're just militarized for war as necessary.

Don't forget, it's going to be man - machine teaming, there's gonna be a lot of HAL 9000 AI's and robots.

So you don't need huge crews for your ships, and there's gonna be a lot of drones in the fights.

Man in the loop is the decision maker, the legal authority and accountability, but the machines are the grunts.

Internet of things on steroids, everything is smart. Everything is a computer.

So whether you're wearing a spacesuit or a Gundam Mobile Suit, it's HAL 9000, it's your co-pilot.

So fighting for resources on distant worlds? Small scale special forces units battling it out in the agri-domes and water refineries?
I can feel a battle in the rice fields coming on.
These agri-domes would need to be massive with their own bio-systems. Artificial lights halfway up, large dark voids with just the air circulation ducts above and irrigated fields of beans, fruit, vegetables even livestock below. Huge lakes of fish providing the nutrients for the plants.
1,000 acres in area and 100yds tall.
Plenty of room in there for a decent sized battle.

[Smitty-48]

So fighting for resources on distant worlds? Small scale special forces units battling it out in the agri-domes and water refineries?
I can feel a battle in the rice fields coming on.
These agri-domes would need to be massive with their own bio-systems. Artificial lights halfway up, large dark voids with just the air circulation ducts above and irrigated fields of beans, fruit, vegetables even livestock below. Huge lakes of fish providing the nutrients for the plants.
1,000 acres in area and 100yds tall.
Plenty of room in there for a decent sized battle.

That could be further out on the timeline.

Initially it's proxy war on near planets.

The fights break out in space due to confrontation on earth.

You can't get to distant planets until you invent constant acceleration for relativistic velocity.

[Montegriffo]

Too early for a return to super-fast luxury liners sailing back and forward from Mars then?
Space tourism is going to be an expanding market.
Built in the art deco style of the 1920's and 30's Blue Ribbon liners. Heavily sponsored by governments who can use them as fast troop carriers when necessary.

more great locations for the action to take part in.

[Smitty-48]

Too early for a return to super-fast luxury liners sailing back and forward from Mars then?
Space tourism is going to be an expanding market.
Built in the art deco style of the 1920's and 30's Blue Ribbon liners. Heavily sponsored by governments who can use them as fast troop carriers when necessary.

more great locations for the action to take part in.

There's nothing to see on Mars, it's a wasteland. The tourist attractions would be Jupiter and Saturn.

Again, further out the timeline, you can go out further, but I'm constructing the foundation right now.

Space is still going to be rocket science dangerous and expensive in 100 years

[Smitty-48]

At 100 - 150 years out, it's just the beginning of the Solar Race.

They've just built the space elevators and the orbital habitats.

The Moon is colonized but it's become and industrial base in space.

Mars is the established colony planet, it's like a giant test lab for space colonization, that turns into a battlefield.

Jupiter and Saturn is the frontier, the high ground everybody is racing towards.

Particularly Ganymede and Europa, Titan and Iapetus

The Asteroid Belt is the Battle space in between

That's where you're gonna get your ship combat. In amongst the asteroids which you can use as cover,