The Space War Thread

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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by StCapps » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:38 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:36 am
For me, I need a holy war.

Maybe you don't have to make it about Christianity but if you make it about fighting demonic forces and principalities that's just as good.

In fact don't make it about space Christianity but there needs to be theological undertones like John Milton's Paradise Lost. Idk it may sound crazy but it seems real to me and that's why I like WH40k.
To the extent that it is like Star Trek, it will be more like DS9, and less like TNG.

Just with more Cold War and less Dominion War.
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:40 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:30 am
TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:24 am
I need more overt religious tones. None of this strikes me as appealing to those that believe this war is as old as Lucifer's rebellion. It seems sterile like Star trek or something. I'm just speaking for myself but you have set up a scenario that lacks spiritual conflict. And I don't mean to pile on at all because I appreciate your insight but lacking this, it seems like the same old false dichotomy of right vs left. Commies vs freedom. This won't sell for me.
America will be the religious freedom fighters fighting against the atheist commie hordes. The forces of good vs the forces of evil, the atheist commie hordes continuing to push Lucifer's rebellion all the way into space to try and outflank the America Christians. There will be plenty of religion up in the mix, this is Smitty we are talking about here, he's good at writing that shit, haven't you read his posts?
The whole world is subjugated under the Orwellian Panopticon, the totalitarian surveillance state.

Americans overthrow this in the Second War of Independence, the constitution wins.

America is the only free country left, America is the only place you are not in the Panopticon.

There is another Great Awakening in the face of godless atheist communism.

Americans recoil from the onset of global totalitarianism, and it is a Christian faith based revolt.
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by StCapps » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:43 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:40 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:30 am
TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:24 am
I need more overt religious tones. None of this strikes me as appealing to those that believe this war is as old as Lucifer's rebellion. It seems sterile like Star trek or something. I'm just speaking for myself but you have set up a scenario that lacks spiritual conflict. And I don't mean to pile on at all because I appreciate your insight but lacking this, it seems like the same old false dichotomy of right vs left. Commies vs freedom. This won't sell for me.
America will be the religious freedom fighters fighting against the atheist commie hordes. The forces of good vs the forces of evil, the atheist commie hordes continuing to push Lucifer's rebellion all the way into space to try and outflank the America Christians. There will be plenty of religion up in the mix, this is Smitty we are talking about here, he's good at writing that shit, haven't you read his posts?
The whole world is subjugated under the Orwellian Panopticon, the totalitarian surveillance state.

Americans overthrow this in the Second War of Independence, the constitution wins.

America is the only free country left, America is the only place you are not in the Panopticon.

There is another Great Awakening in the face of godless atheist communism.

Americans recoil from the onset of global totalitarianism, and it is a Christian faith based revolt.
How long after the Second War of Independence will it be set? Will the leaders of the 2nd WoI be the one's leading the push into space to avoid godless atheist encirclement, or will it be a generation or two after them?
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:44 am



You don't have to make it about Christianity I think so long as you emphasize the demonic forces circling round our souls. Man is made up of three things: mind body and soul. They got the first two and you better believe they are coming for your soul. I'm not even spit balling I am being 100% serious. For me, it's going back to the Church of my ancestors and that's how I fight back. For others it will be something else but I guarantee it's a spiritual conflict. This war is not new at all. Simply extend it into the future.

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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:53 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:43 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:40 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:30 am
America will be the religious freedom fighters fighting against the atheist commie hordes. The forces of good vs the forces of evil, the atheist commie hordes continuing to push Lucifer's rebellion all the way into space to try and outflank the America Christians. There will be plenty of religion up in the mix, this is Smitty we are talking about here, he's good at writing that shit, haven't you read his posts?
The whole world is subjugated under the Orwellian Panopticon, the totalitarian surveillance state.

Americans overthrow this in the Second War of Independence, the constitution wins.

America is the only free country left, America is the only place you are not in the Panopticon.

There is another Great Awakening in the face of godless atheist communism.

Americans recoil from the onset of global totalitarianism, and it is a Christian faith based revolt.
How long after the Second War of Independence will it be set? Will the leaders of the 2nd WoI be the one's leading the push into space to avoid godless atheist encirclement, or will it be a generation or two after them?
It's like the first War of Independence, it goes down in a decade or so, and just like in the first WoI, the defeated are forced to flee to the Canada's, not Canada anymore, but a loose federation controlled by the Globalists.

There are already colonies in space at this point, but they are nascent, just a foothold.

When the Cold War escalates, there is a JFK moment where the new POTUS calls for a Space Race.

The Globalists do as the Soviets did and respond, but since it is the UN, they are much more powerful and formidable than the Soviets, so it's neck and neck.

The big push is to build space docks, the space elevators, with the space elevators, it picks up pace, because you don't need rockets to get to orbit, you ride the elevator up to the dock, then you assemble your spaceships there.

America builds two huge space elevators, one in Cape Canaveral and one in Vandenberg.

The Globalists build them in Guyana and Kazakhstan.

Up in orbit the space docks are assembling ships and launching them.

There is also a return to the Moon, there are two huge moon bases.

Both sides also build Habitats in orbit, like in the movie Elysium, although maybe not that big.

The United States Space Force Academy is on the American habitat; to prepare you to live in space.

If you are an officer candidate for the USSF Academy, you are your wife and children move to the orbital habitat.

From there you and your wife and children go to space, your wife and kids are coming with you.

Because you're going to be up there for years, maybe you're never coming back.

When you get posted to space, it's like West Germany or South Korea, you're defending it,and you live there.

The colonies are like military camps with families accompanying.

Bear in mind, you can't live on spaceship, there's too much radiation from the sun.

So the ships are highly automated, they transport colonists and whatnot, but the crews are small and they rotate.

Space war is land war, it's colony wars, either on a planet or in a habitat.

The crew of a spaceship is like in 2001: A Space Odyssey, it's mostly passengers and cargo, not crew.

The crew itself is like two guys with HAL 9000, it's not like the Starship Enterprise.

Even with nuclear electric rockets, it's going to take months to get places

So troops and passengers sleep, the crew of two or three runs things with an AI

The crews swap out when they've soaked up too much radiation.

The radiation shielding is better than it is now, but even in the future, after a few years you have to switch jobs.

In the Space Force you have to be able to all the jobs, space crew, space colonist, space marine

You are an astronaut in the classical sense, you're just militarized for war as necessary.

Don't forget, it's going to be man - machine teaming, there's gonna be a lot of HAL 9000 AI's and robots.

So you don't need huge crews for your ships, and there's gonna be a lot of drones in the fights.

Man in the loop is the decision maker, the legal authority and accountability, but the machines are the grunts.

Internet of things on steroids, everything is smart. Everything is a computer.

So whether you're wearing a spacesuit or a Gundam Mobile Suit, it's HAL 9000, it's your co-pilot.
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:18 am

Furthermore, I posit that lacking spiritual conflict you are left with sterile sci-fi. When was the last time you read good sci-fi that lacked spiritual development? I would argue rendezvous with Rama would be a good contender but by the end of the series it just became ridiculous.

All good sci-fi involves spiritual warfare. Have you read PKD?
My point is that I find the commie/freedom Democrat/Republican dichotomy uninteresting.

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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:28 am

But ultimately I'm just talking out of my ass.

I did want to post about my friend and the Church however so I will just do it here.

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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:44 am

Nukedog needs space Jews or he doesn't know who to blame for all that is wrong.
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:46 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:44 am
Nukedog needs space Jews or he doesn't know who to blame for all that is wrong.
Incorrect.

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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:48 am