You think I agree with the milk snatcher's declaration?Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:14 amAbsolutely there is an alternative.Montegriffo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:11 amHence Maggie's declaration that there is no alternative.
The answer is socially responsible capitalism. ie social democracy.
You should not allow people to make decisions without skin in the game. If you want to vote for war, you best be ready to muster. If you want to spend money on a grand new social welfare program, you better be a net tax payer.
The managerial class are people who enrich themselves by taking the power to make decisions on matters in which they have no stake and do not take the risks.
It doesn't matter if it's socialism, communism, or globalist capitalism, it's the same problem.
Chicken warhawks tend to have one thing in common: they don't lift.
Socialists tend to have one thing in common: they are not net tax payers.
See the problem?
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For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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As I added to the comment before you replied:Montegriffo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:16 amYou think I agree with the milk snatcher's declaration?Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:14 amAbsolutely there is an alternative.Montegriffo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:11 amHence Maggie's declaration that there is no alternative.
The answer is socially responsible capitalism. ie social democracy.
You should not allow people to make decisions without skin in the game. If you want to vote for war, you best be ready to muster. If you want to spend money on a grand new social welfare program, you better be a net tax payer.
The managerial class are people who enrich themselves by taking the power to make decisions on matters in which they have no stake and do not take the risks.
It doesn't matter if it's socialism, communism, or globalist capitalism, it's the same problem.
Chicken warhawks tend to have one thing in common: they don't lift.
Socialists tend to have one thing in common: they are not net tax payers.
See the problem?
The alternative to this situation is to never allow people to make decisions if they have no skin in the game. Period. No votes. Nothing.The Noodles communist guy should be reviled for wanting to control the restaurant that employed him without having any investment in said business for the same reason that Bolton should be reviled for pushing for wars he never had any intention of fighting himself.
I don't know if I would take it as far as Taleb, and tell people to get fucked even if they express an opinion unless they have skin in the game with respect to the opinion (possibly because I would get bored pretty fast), but even there he has a point.
The whole power structure of Enlightenment civilization is inverted.
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+1Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:07 amWhich is the same thing to be said about communism.Montegriffo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:01 amGlobalism is not about redistributing wealth amongst the poor.
Globalists are lining their own pockets at the expense of the working classes.
If we lived in the Soviet Union, the corporate managerial class and deep state would all be bureaucrats and politburo wonks within the communist party. The enemy is the Soviet-Harvard establishment.
These are people who enrich themselves at the expense and risk of others. They want to make decisions with other people's lives and other people's money, because they think they know better than everybody else.
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Consider the fact that, even when we debate issues, people cite so-called analysts and commentators who have no stake. Journalism, the farce that this industry is, even made a virtue out of it. A financial analyst will argue his opinion about some financial instrument, for example, is even more valuable precisely because he has no stake in it.
But people make different decisions when they have a stake in something compared to when they do not. Would Bolton be as excited for war with Iran if he was for shizzle going to be among the first American troops that have to land there and go house-to-house in horrific urban warfare to execute his beloved war? Doubtful. But I am sure -- in theory -- he thinks the war is a great idea.
That's the problem. People have these ideas (theory) and they don't have to pay the costs for when application of these ideas goes tits up. Those are your enemies. The ostensible ideology they operate from is irrelevant. It's the same fucking people.
But people make different decisions when they have a stake in something compared to when they do not. Would Bolton be as excited for war with Iran if he was for shizzle going to be among the first American troops that have to land there and go house-to-house in horrific urban warfare to execute his beloved war? Doubtful. But I am sure -- in theory -- he thinks the war is a great idea.
That's the problem. People have these ideas (theory) and they don't have to pay the costs for when application of these ideas goes tits up. Those are your enemies. The ostensible ideology they operate from is irrelevant. It's the same fucking people.
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Even in our individual countries, what is "globalism" if not capitalists taking risks with the economic vitality of other people? We see coastal elites supporting a system where they receive all the benefits, but all the risks are offloaded to the rust belt and what they derisively call "flyover country".
Imagine how much worse it will be in Europe where "flyover country" people do not even speak the same language.
Look at how many wealthy liberals demand open borders who live in all-white communities and have fucking security walls surrounding their estates. They aren't paying the costs for the immigration, but they get the cheap labor and the free virtue signaling.
Fuck that shit. These people are worthless.
Working class blokes from the pub for the win in England.
Imagine how much worse it will be in Europe where "flyover country" people do not even speak the same language.
Look at how many wealthy liberals demand open borders who live in all-white communities and have fucking security walls surrounding their estates. They aren't paying the costs for the immigration, but they get the cheap labor and the free virtue signaling.
Fuck that shit. These people are worthless.
Working class blokes from the pub for the win in England.
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The early 21st C has been a new gilded age. Support for globalism is support for robber barons.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:30 amEven in our individual countries, what is "globalism" if not capitalists taking risks with the economic vitality of other people? We see coastal elites supporting a system where they receive all the benefits, but all the risks are offloaded to the rust belt and what they derisively call "flyover country".
Imagine how much worse it will be in Europe where "flyover country" people do not even speak the same language.
Look at how many wealthy liberals demand open borders who live in all-white communities and have fucking security walls surrounding their estates. They aren't paying the costs for the immigration, but they get the cheap labor and the free virtue signaling.
Fuck that shit. These people are worthless.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... ial-media/Kate Scottow of Hitchin, Hertfordshire in Britain was arrested in December. Three officers took her into custody as her then 10-year-old daughter and 20-month-old son looked on, The Daily Mail reported.
Now, she’s been charged by the Crown Prosecution Service, which says she made “persistent” social media posted designed to cause “annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety” to another person between September 2018 and May 2019.
“Last night, a CPS spokesman said the charge against Mrs Scottow had been authorised on August 21 ‘after reviewing a file of evidence from Hertfordshire Police relating to social media posts,'” The Mail wrote. Scottow is due to appear in court on Sept. 18.
When Scottow was arrested last year, Boris Johnson, who is now Prime Minister, criticized the move as an “abuse of manpower and police facilities.”
“Is this really the right way to fight crime? Is this what our brave police officers signed up to do?” Johnson wrote in a newspaper column. “Are you really telling me that it is a sensible ordering of priorities, when violence on the streets would seem to be getting out of control?”
The new case comes six months after Britain’s first transgender hate crime prosecution was tossed out of court, with the judge declaring: “There is no case and never was a case.”
This was from when the rampant Muslim rape gang epidemic finally started getting out into the press back in 2012:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3141 ... orrectnessA three-month trial that recently ended in Liverpool, where nine Muslim men were found guilty of raping dozens of British children, revealed that police and social workers in northern England repeatedly refuse to investigate Muslim paedophile gangs: they said they are afraid of being called racist.
The disturbing details that emerged during the trial have opened yet another chapter in a long-running debate about multiculturalism in Britain, where many say that political correctness has gone too far.
Less than a month after the trial in Liverpool ended on May 9, it emerged that social workers in the City of Rotherham, also in northern England, had known for six years that a teenage mother (identified as Child S) who was murdered for bringing shame on the families of two Pakistani men who had used her for sex, was at clear risk from predatory Muslim gangs.
On May 29, Rotherham Council's Safeguarding Children Board published a so-called Serious Case Review, but key politically incorrect passages which reveal that they had known she was at particular risk from "Asian men" (Muslim men) were blocked out with black lines.
The council went to court in an attempt to suppress the hidden information after an uncensored copy of the report was leaked to a British newspaper, but the legal action was eventually abandoned. The uncensored report confirmed that Child S had pursued dealings with 15 different agencies, and identified "numerous missed opportunities" to protect her; observers believe the agencies failed to do so because they did not want to be branded as racist.
The police, out of fear of political correctness, allow Muslim rape gangs to operate with impunity in almost every city in the realm and also to break down the door of a mother in the middle of the night in order to arrest her for calling a man a man instead of his preferred gender.
This state of affairs is what Sam Francis coined as anarcho-tyranny.
https://vdare.com/articles/mass-immigra ... ho-tyrannyMr. Barr's words are almost a definition of the system of government I have called "anarcho-tyranny": a combination of anarchy (in which legitimate government functions—like spying on the bad guys or punishing real criminals—are not performed) and tyranny (in which government performs illegitimate functions—like spying on the good guys or criminalizing innocent conduct like gun ownership and political dissent).
The result of anarcho-tyranny is that government swells in power, criminals are not controlled, and law-abiding citizens wind up being repressed by the state and attacked by thugs.
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People like to buy cheap stuff at places like Wal-Mart and Amazon. They are convinced that globalism makes their money go further but don't realize that they end up with less money to take somewhere. The looser is always someone else.C-Mag wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:52 amI don't understand why any average person would support and defend globalism. I get it if you are an up and coming elitist or international money guy. Your wallet is dependent upon keeping the status quo. For 25 + years it has worked very well at transferring wealth from the middle class in the Western world to the elites.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:54 amBoth globalism and communism is rule by the middle managers / bureaucrats. It's the same people. This is why much of the ideological discussion is so specious.
But if you are an average middle class or working stiff, you're fucking insane to support Globalism.
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Hastur wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:46 pmPeople like to buy cheap stuff at places like Wal-Mart and Amazon. They are convinced that globalism makes their money go further but don't realize that they end up with less money to take somewhere. The looser is always someone else.C-Mag wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:52 amI don't understand why any average person would support and defend globalism. I get it if you are an up and coming elitist or international money guy. Your wallet is dependent upon keeping the status quo. For 25 + years it has worked very well at transferring wealth from the middle class in the Western world to the elites.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:54 amBoth globalism and communism is rule by the middle managers / bureaucrats. It's the same people. This is why much of the ideological discussion is so specious.
But if you are an average middle class or working stiff, you're fucking insane to support Globalism.
Good answer.
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http://cphpost.dk/news/denmarks-climate ... smoke.html
Fuzzy green math has Danish politicians pat themselves on the back for a long time for our country being "green innovaters".
Fuzzy green math has Danish politicians pat themselves on the back for a long time for our country being "green innovaters".
Fame is not flattery. Respect is not agreement.